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Suston, help me here (bag training)

Legion Kreinak2

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Gettin' a heavy bag this X-mas... My split thus far is

Sunday: Abs
Monday: Chest/Calves
Tuesday: Sprints
Wednesday: Back/Shoulders
Thursday: Abs
Friday: Legs
Saturday: Arms

Where in this would I incorporate heavy bag training? I know the best way to improve my punch is throuhg actually punching, not so much weight lifting. That's just accessory shit.

Oh, and would it be good to stick with the 5x5 routine from now until Spring (all the way through my bulking cycle)? Or should I switchup the routine, and if so... what would I do next?
 
Split your arms day between Monday and Wednesday (triceps on Monday, biceps on Wednesday) or do them on Friday along with legs. You could dedicate an entire day to boxing (Saturday), if you did that. Alternatively you could drop the arms day completely and do plenty of upper-body compound movements that work the arms.

You could re-arrange your split in plenty of ways to accomodate the boxing, so that's just one suggestion that doesn't really change a whole lot.
 
Alright I'll give you my next routine I will be starting after Thanksgiving that will increase both your size and strength while enhancing your punching power and anaerobic endurance (sorry bud but I can't help you on long-term cardio, it is pointless for myself so I don't train that way, even when I competed)

Mon: Back and bis/ plus sprints
Tue: Chest and tris
Wen: Boxing Speed drills and abs
Thu: Shoulders and sprints
Fri: Legs/calves boxing form drills
Sat: rest and eat ab work
Sun: explosive boxing and movement drills

Most boxing session take me about 15-25 minutes, sprints take me about 10 minutes and weightlifting takes me about 45 minutes at most, good luck if you need more info just ask and I will be happy to give any advice I can
 
What are those three different types of boxing drills? Form, explosive and speed... describe each.

What does your diet look like at this point.

In fact, can I see what you plan to do for each body part...?
 
Thaibox said:
LS, why would you do drills the day after chest/tris?:confused:

Thaibox, I train the day after at night to help loosen up my muscles and training when fatigued is the best way to work on form and speed. I know it sounds weird but you never spar untill you run and hit the pads, basically the same way here is to practice when fatigued so when you fight for real it is a lot easier...
 
Speed training, This is mostly shadow boxing and working on combos. Basically for me it is 4 x 1 minute rounds working on 1- and 1-2 combos working on max speed forward and on the pull back. AT the end I hit the bag with speed but almost no power
for two rounds working on movment and snapping out singles and doubles.

Form drills are a little tougher mentally: this is were you actualy need a partner or mirror. The gist is to work on foot stance and transition stages from one type of punch to another without being off balance and still having power. I usually stay in a stance for about 1 sec and the go inot another. This is were you really get to understand 3-4-5 hit combos and the footing needed. First two rounds are done without any bag contact and the next three are, one minute only

Explosive training: The really hard part, Is to work on combos at the fastest and hardest pace you can while maintaining good form. This is where the combos are anywhere from 3-7 punches. When you cannot perform the combos with power or speed then your round is at an end. Rest for about one minute and do it again with a different type of combo, trust me if you get 3 rounds of 30 seconds the first time you are doing well....
 
Okay, I understand your logic bro. I've just become too much of a lifter and let my fighting common sense lack. All I see is overtraining :( . Man, with the exception of a scheduled active recovery time, I barely move when I'm sore. Hell, I even brush my teeth slow. Never use to be this way. I used to train sore or not for hours. I've become way too anal about the little things:)
 
Thaibox said:
Okay, I understand your logic bro. I've just become too much of a lifter and let my fighting common sense lack. All I see is overtraining :( . Man, with the exception of a scheduled active recovery time, I barely move when I'm sore. Hell, I even brush my teeth slow. Never use to be this way. I used to train sore or not for hours. I've become way too anal about the little things:)

T,

Is it because you are older and wiser?
 
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