Someone recommend me a beginner Ab/Oblique routine.

[fortunatesun]

Ironwings, you might not want this idea either but here goes...

Cable crunches on the lat pulldown machine: Use a rope attachment and stand facing away from the machine, straddling the bench. Push abs out and harden them as much as you can. Then pull down to 90 degrees.

Doing crunches this way allows you to go heavy. You can rep as low as 6.

I realize you don't want to end up looking thick, but this might provide the plane of travel you need.

One more thing is you could use bands to provide resistance instead of using the cable. I'm thinking this would allow you to customize your range of motion. Found a picture:http://asp.elitefts.com/qa/default.asp?qid=37622&tid=101

 

[ironwings]

Oh yeah - I haven't done those in awhile. I was also thinking about laying on a exercise ball and using the rope behind me to crunch with. I think both of these will target those upper abs nicely. Thanks!!! I may alternate those with the band crunches - my abs build quickly!

When you say straddle the bench do you mean sit on it or just stand over it? I've not done either.

Thanks guys - I'll include these tomorrow and let you know how it goes.

Here is a pic of what I have going. You'll see that I have nice shape on my abs but the center indention needs to be more apparent.

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2myyjxy&s=5

 

[fortunatesun]

When you say straddle the bench do you mean sit on it or just stand over it? I've not done either.

These are done standing.

When I saw the picture you posted I immediately thought of something but bear in mind this comes from my own experience. I don't know how it relates to a woman's physique objectives.

I believe that the definition etched out from developing your intercoastals and serratus make your upper abs stand out much, much more.

Russian Twists are my favorite: Lying Russian Twist - Find Internet TV

I do them on a Roman Chair so that there's no back support and use dumbells held on either side. This coincidentally places the weight in line with intercoastals/upper abs. It's considered a strength exercise but I'd use it if I were a bodybuilder as well. A Landmine, if you have access to one, is roughly equivalent.

 

[NJL52]

Sigh.... this forum is led by the blind still.

Abdominals are MUSCLE. They behave the same as every other muscle in the body.

If you do 20 rep sets of abdominal work you are building endurance. The size and strength will decrease and your ability to do high rep sets will increase.
Lactic acid burn sensation is your body's way of telling itself that it needs to be more efficient.

If you do 10 rep sets of abdominal work you are building mass. The size and strength will increase.

Why the fuck do people think abs are some magical tissue that behaves completely different then every other single part of your body?

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[ironwings]

These are done standing.

When I saw the picture you posted I immediately thought of something but bear in mind this comes from my own experience. I don't know how it relates to a woman's physique objectives.

I believe that the definition etched out from developing your intercoastals and serratus make your upper abs stand out much, much more.

Russian Twists are my favorite: Lying Russian Twist - Find Internet TV

I do them on a Roman Chair so that there's no back support and use dumbells held on either side. This coincidentally places the weight in line with intercoastals/upper abs. It's considered a strength exercise but I'd use it if I were a bodybuilder as well. A Landmine, if you have access to one, is roughly equivalent.

I'll give it a whirl

 

[ironwings]

Sigh.... this forum is led by the blind still.

Abdominals are MUSCLE. They behave the same as every other muscle in the body.

If you do 20 rep sets of abdominal work you are building endurance. The size and strength will decrease and your ability to do high rep sets will increase.
Lactic acid burn sensation is your body's way of telling itself that it needs to be more efficient.

If you do 10 rep sets of abdominal work you are building mass. The size and strength will increase.

Why the fuck do people think abs are some magical tissue that behaves completely different then every other single part of your body?

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smart ass. of course they are a muscle. and just like any muscle there are effective exercises and noneffective exercises to get to ones physique goal. that is what is being discussed.

go elsewhere to spread your wisdom.

 

[RADAR]

Do those things actually work?

I wouldn't have mentioned it if it didn't, you get the best resistance on shaq carpet, tile floors don't cut it.

RADAR