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These are staples of Flex Wheeler and Chris Cormier in their back routines. Needless to say, their backs are AWESOME!! Has anyone else tried them? If so, have they made a big improvement in your back development???
Smith Machine Deadlifts- Who Does Them?
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Citruscide
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They most likely do them because of the injury that can take place due to high weight lifting and deadlifts. With full range of motion, deadlifts are quite possibly the greatest cause of injury in bodybuilders.
Using the Smith machine will most likely stablize the workout and reduce the chance of injury.
For us amatures... I'd say stick to the free bar, unless you are thinking of doing super heavy weight or are prone to back injury.
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Using the Smith machine will most likely stablize the workout and reduce the chance of injury.
For us amatures... I'd say stick to the free bar, unless you are thinking of doing super heavy weight or are prone to back injury.
C-ditty
Citruscide said:
The deadlift itself is not the cause of injury....poor form is. The heavier weights used do increase the "risk", but if you pull properly it will not be an issue. Having a "pretty"(not strong) lower back and abs is the real issue. And not strengthening those stabilizer muscles, by taking them out of the equation with the Smith, is a bad idea..IMO.
Why is it that a majority of bodybuilders are always looking for ways around exercises. They want to modify exercises so that they are safer. Why not just learn to lift correctly?
I can't think of a single good reason to do them on a smith. Lots of "published" routines aren't accurate.
ConstantChange
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Funny this topic came up. There is this new gym opening that is 15 miles closer to my house than my current gym, so I stopped by to check it out. He didn't have the equipment in the place yet cause he was doing some drywall work and getting it all ready, so I was asking him some questions about what he was going to have and what he was going to allow. I asked him, "Are you going to allow people to deadlift?" because I've been in gyms that you couldn't. He didn't really answer my question but said "I do a lot of deadlifts too, but I use the smith machine. I got this brand new kick ass smith...it's badass" I was thinking "ooooooooook, deads with a smith....that's a new one"
When I dead, the bar doesn't move in a straight line towards the ceiling....seems like it would be as un-natural to me as doing squats on a smith (which I can't even imagine doing unless it was a must)
To each their own....if it works for you.....use the smith all day long.
When I dead, the bar doesn't move in a straight line towards the ceiling....seems like it would be as un-natural to me as doing squats on a smith (which I can't even imagine doing unless it was a must)
To each their own....if it works for you.....use the smith all day long.
Intenceman
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Never tried them. Tried Squats on them once or twice and the just hurt my back as I got lo- curse of the tall man. I only use the smith for pressing to failure. For Squats and deads it's free weights.
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Citruscide
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Hannibal said:
When doing that much weight, in the position your body is, you can have perfect form and lose your balance in the slighest and boom, you have blown out disks.
I hurt my back doing near 400 on squats in 1997... what injured it? The bar got caught on the peg putting the weights back on the rack... causing my balance to shift and throwing out my back fun stuff.
Because of the weight used, the enormous range of motion, and the lack of help a spotter will provide in case of a loss of balance or other accident... deadlifts are the number one cause of back injjry. Sure, bad form on ANY exercise can cause this problem... but deadlifts leave too many holes open... which is why MANY bodybuilders resort to back extensions, barbell rows, or smith machine deadlifts to prevent a bad injury.
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