personal trainers advice.. WTF?

[Elite_Fry]

what are the advantages of working every body group per session? like every body part for lets say 3 sets. and then do the same routine everytime you go to the gym

cos this is what the personal trainers at my gym say to everyone who pay for their expertise...

 

[Vigorous]

bodypart splits

Hey
One on the advantages is that you dont have to train as often. With that type of training its more likely everyother day for like 3 times per week, where im on 4 days on one off, so I spend alittle more time at the gym... Alot of personal trainers start people out this way just so they can get use to the exercises and get proper form and technique. After alittle while and you have a small foundation they may move you on to a split where you target a bodypart or group of bodyparts in one session. Spliting them up allows more time per bodypart and normally your more fresh while training. Its pretty hard to really push two major bodyparts in one session like chest and legs, youd feel exhausted. But as I say the 3 times a week every other day is a common starting point among first timers...
hope this helps

 

[diamonddiceclay]

each body part should be done ONCE a week-this is how pro bb'ers do it.

 

[Wizzyman]

I'm a PT and I often start beginners on a full body routine 3 x per week, then after 4 - 6, weeks depending on their progress, I change to usually to a double split. After 3-4 months of hard training I think full body workouts should be cycled into training programmes occasionally for variety - but not for longer than 4 or so weeks

 

[bignate73]

each body part should be done ONCE a week-this is how pro bb'ers do it.

LOL

(i hope that was sarcasm)

 

[bignate73]

what are the advantages of working every body group per session? like every body part for lets say 3 sets. and then do the same routine everytime you go to the gym

cos this is what the personal trainers at my gym say to everyone who pay for their expertise...

not everyone who works with a personal trainer even has a clue how to work out. they need to learn a foundation of exercises. the trainer needs to watch them through these exercises to see flexibility issues, strengths, weaknesses, ROM and whether they can even learn/remember these motions. they learn the basic exercises, then go through the same routine, with VARIATION to those previous exercises, to teach them that they have choices when working out. also a full body system gets their heart rate up, keeps the session interesting, gets them conditioned to exercise in general. not everyone has the time to split bodyparts, or the conditioning to handle the workload. most of the time, budgetary constraints are an issue so the trainer has to get his client comfortable training and educated on the exercises, as well as get them on track with thier nutrition and cardio.

THATS WHY THEY PAY FOR MY EXPERTISE!

i take offense to people questioning a trainers judgement these same people havent assessed this client, spoken with this client about goals, planned out the hour with regards to exercise as well as counseling.

a good trainer is not a rep counter. a good trainer is a coach, counselor, and trainer all in one. a solid trainer knows what that client needs and gives them what they also want all packaged up in an hour.

many more factors involved than what a typical gym member looking from the outside can percieve.

enough of that, rant over.

 

[Wizzyman]

I fully agree with Big. As a Trainer , I get fucked off with people calling me an over paid rep counter!
My little rant is now over to.
Keep it real Big

 

[Blood&Iron]

what are the advantages of working every body group per session? like every body part for lets say 3 sets. and then do the same routine everytime you go to the gym

There are some very compelling reasons to do so, although I doubt very much the trainer advocating this routine has any idea of them. If your concerned solely with hypertrophy take a look at
www.thinkmuscle.com
Bryan Haycock's series of articles on hypertrophy-specific training covers them, although not in all that great of depth. There has also been a great deal of discussion of this on MFW of late, with Lyle McDonald acting as Haycock's proxy.

As to personal trainers in general, I think most are roughly as intelligent as a lump of shit. That doesn't mean some aren't good. Bignate73, with whom I disagree about a number of things, nonetheless is obviously very knowledgeable and I would assume continues to read and research new developments in his field. Sadly, this is a rarity in the personal training industry. A monkey, given enough time, could be certified as a personal trainer in most of the larger organizations.

 

[b fold the truth]

Well...I have zero certification...but I have taken myself from 152-305 naturally. Most of those personal trainers are a mediocre lean 185 with a tan and a degree who learned from a scientist/theorist who was a long distance runner 10 years ago. They know nothing from experience. They have not sat around on a Friday night trying to figure out what will take them past that plateau...if you are skin and bones...you never reach one either.

A trainer once told me..."Set the bar down slowly and softly when you deadlift." I turned around and said..."O.K., next time I see you deadlift 500lbs I expect to see you set it down slowly and softly."

Trainer: " I don't do deadlifts."

B True: "Ohh...I didn't figurre you did."

Read, learn, make your own judgements.

B True

 

[SSAlexSS]

each body part should be done ONCE a week-this is how pro bb'ers do it.

Um no....

Many pro bbs train certain muscle groups more than once!

Ronnies does his back for example 2x per week.



Training a bodypoart ONCE per week may be fine. But more is better!

3x per week bodypart training is far more effective than 1x (asuming you
train at correct intensity).


And besides/ Most pro bbers dont look at pure size anymore, so its not as important to train bodypart more often. Plus some pros are lazy and just dont want to train more under pretnese "overtraining" to hide their lazyness!