Off Day DIet - COnflicting Views....

[JKurz1]

I have two trainers that actually are conflicting on what to do with an off day diet...one says keep everything the same...everything...including the high gi pw carbs in the evening...the other says to lower carbs as the day goes on but keep them early since I do am cardio.....so, can I get some thoughts and theories on what you'd do if this was your outlay....on a mild hrt dose, bulking 99% clean....

730 (60 CARBS, 40G PRO, 15G FAT)
OATS 1 CUP (IS THIS ONE CUP OR 1.25???)
1 TB OF PB
EGG WHITES 9
EGGS 1


10 (73 CARBS, 55 PRO)
OATS 1 CUP
CHX 6 OZ (cooked)
PINEAPPLE 1 CUP or LARGE BANANA?


1230-130 (60 CARBS, 50 PRO)
CHIKEN 60Z
YAM 10 OZ
HUGE SALAD!

PRE TRAIN (50G PRO, 18G FAT)
300-330 CASEIN 2 SCOOPS
PB 2TB

5:30 TRAIN

6:30:00 AM (25 PRO, 60G CARBS)
3 SERVINGS GATORADE
1 SCOOP PROTEIN
1 SERV. CREATINE, 1 SERV GLUTAMINE

700 (100G CARBS, 55 PRO)
CREAMERY RICE 3 SERV
WHEY 2.5 SCOOPS
OR
10 RICE CAKES
WHEY 2.5 SCOOPS


800 (80G CARBS, 50G PRO)
BROWN RICE 3 SERV
6OZ ROGUHY
ASPARAGUS 8

930 (28G FAT, 50G PRO)
PREBED
(CUBE STEAK) OR FLANK 8OZ
WHITES 4

9:45 BED!

 

[gettnlarge01]

Cut the carbs back on non workout days since your clean bulking.

 

[JKurz1]

Cut the carbs back on non workout days since your clean bulking.

after which meal #3?

 

[Vascular Freak]

plain and simple bro, listen to the "second" trainer, and cut your carbs back later in the day. From your schedule, after 5:30pm I would stick with just fats and protein/veggies. There is no need for hi gi carbs, or high total carb intake on off days since you are not burning them up. Still eat them in the morning and afternoon to keep metab up, and muscles full, but but dinner time don't touch them.

 

[gettnlarge01]

Yes after meal 3 is a good place to start.You"ve got alot of carbs at night and you go to bed early too.

 

[JKurz1]

SO how does this look:

730 (60 CARBS, 40G PRO, 15G FAT)
OATS 1 CUP (IS THIS ONE CUP OR 1.25???)
1 TB OF PB
EGG WHITES 9
EGGS 1


10 (73 CARBS, 55 PRO)
OATS 1 CUP
CHX 6 OZ (cooked)
PINEAPPLE 1 CUP or LARGE BANANA?


1230-130 (60 CARBS, 50 PRO)
CHIKEN 60Z
YAM 10 OZ OR SWITCH TO 3/4 CUP OATS
HUGE SALAD!

(DROPPED)PRE TRAIN (50G PRO, 18G FAT)
300-330 CASEIN 2 SCOOPS
PB 2TB
ADDED 4 OZ FLANK, 4 OZ CHICKEN

(DROPPED)
6:30:00 AM (25 PRO, 60G CARBS)
3 SERVINGS GATORADE
1 SCOOP PROTEIN
1 SERV. CREATINE, 1 SERV GLUTAMINE
ADDED:
4OZ CHICKEN, 2 OZ FISH, SQUASH, SALAD


(DROPPED)
700 (100G CARBS, 55 PRO)
CREAMERY RICE 3 SERV
WHEY 2.5 SCOOPS
OR
10 RICE CAKES
WHEY 2.5 SCOOPS
ADDED:
4 OZ FLANK STEAK, 2 OZ CHICKEN, CASEIN BLEND

DROPPED
800 (80G CARBS, 50G PRO)
BROWN RICE 3 SERV
6OZ ROGUHY
ASPARAGUS 8

BED!!!!!!!!!!!!

930 (28G FAT, 50G PRO)
PREBED
(CUBE STEAK) OR FLANK 8OZ
WHITES 4

9:45 BED![/QUOTE]

 

[justinjones1963]

plain and simple bro, listen to the "second" trainer, and cut your carbs back later in the day. From your schedule, after 5:30pm I would stick with just fats and protein/veggies. There is no need for hi gi carbs, or high total carb intake on off days since you are not burning them up. Still eat them in the morning and afternoon to keep metab up, and muscles full, but but dinner time don't touch them.

I agree with this - zero carbs in the evening.

 

[JKurz1]

SO how does this look:

730 (60 CARBS, 40G PRO, 15G FAT)
OATS 1 CUP (IS THIS ONE CUP OR 1.25???)
1 TB OF PB
EGG WHITES 9
EGGS 1


10 (73 CARBS, 55 PRO)
OATS 1 CUP
CHX 6 OZ (cooked)
PINEAPPLE 1 CUP or LARGE BANANA?


1230-130 (60 CARBS, 50 PRO)
CHIKEN 60Z
YAM 10 OZ OR SWITCH TO 3/4 CUP OATS
HUGE SALAD!

(DROPPED)PRE TRAIN (50G PRO, 18G FAT)
300-330 CASEIN 2 SCOOPS
PB 2TB
ADDED 4 OZ FLANK, 4 OZ CHICKEN

(DROPPED)
6:30:00 AM (25 PRO, 60G CARBS)
3 SERVINGS GATORADE
1 SCOOP PROTEIN
1 SERV. CREATINE, 1 SERV GLUTAMINE
ADDED:
4OZ CHICKEN, 2 OZ FISH, SQUASH, SALAD


(DROPPED)
700 (100G CARBS, 55 PRO)
CREAMERY RICE 3 SERV
WHEY 2.5 SCOOPS
OR
10 RICE CAKES
WHEY 2.5 SCOOPS
ADDED:
4 OZ FLANK STEAK, 2 OZ CHICKEN, CASEIN BLEND

DROPPED
800 (80G CARBS, 50G PRO)
BROWN RICE 3 SERV
6OZ ROGUHY
ASPARAGUS 8

BED!!!!!!!!!!!!

930 (28G FAT, 50G PRO)
PREBED
(CUBE STEAK) OR FLANK 8OZ
WHITES 4

9:45 BED!

[/QUOTE]
good planm???

 

[gjohnson5]

jkurz , normally I would partially agree with them that low "high gi sugars" in the evening is a good policy. I don't believe zero "carbs" in the evening is a good policy. In your case I would not worry about that rule. You're needing to bulk and bulk alot , so I would not go by that rule

 

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