Off Day DIet - COnflicting Views....

[gjohnson5]

Generally my diets are like his. They are high fat.
High fat means higher calories. Normally I would agree with your diet approach.

I think sugars wold be much faster absorbing and more for an immediate need.

jkurz, like I said, you need to up your fat intake. If you are a hard gainer, which I didn’t know until gj mentioned it, then keep your carbs where they are but you need to get more fats into your diet especially on off days. On training days you want to keep the fat low just before and just after WO because you need quicker protein uptake. However, at all other times you need to up your fats. Like I said earlier 15%fats in your diet is low even for cutting. By upping your fats you will slow your system down and cause your body to hold more of the cals rather than burning them up so quickly. If you're a hard gainer then that is what you need. It's obvious your metabolism runs in high gear so don't worry about gaining it completely clean. You'll burn any extra fat quickly as soon as you go back to your maintenance diet. Your fat intake needs to be at about 150g that would put you just over 4500 cals per/day and it would give you a 40c 30p 30f split. You should do well with that!

 

[rg78]

its not impossible. COleman probably has more carbs that than he takes in around 10k calories a day. IT would be best you would listen to silver

JK note what neo said about "listening" to silver.

your bulking right? Im the same height as you (6,3) and a bit over 240. I eat pretty much whatever i like because im bulking and try to keep my calorie intake between 6000 and 8000 e/d, I really dont give a shit where i get my calories from, i just eat to get bigger. ill worry about the rest when i decide to cut.

 

[JKurz1]

I guess my goals are to pretty much stay as lean as possible while doing this...I just don't want to go over 10-12%....many of you guys are plus 15% which is fine because you know how to diet correctly, or some don't care to, ever.......I've worked too damn hard to get lean and I am afraid the food I eat will go to one place only...yup....the stomach. I've already increased my cals to 4,000 and guess what the first thing to fade it....and I'm not getting much stronger....my other fear is that I've done so much damage to my tendons and ligamens that even with all this eating, I'll never be strng again....even while on 250mg of cyp and 300mg of eq a week.....still nervous.

 

[marvelous54]

Just relax bro. All this is just advice and while we may get at one another arguing whose way is best, the bottom line is the "best" way is whatever you are comfortable with. I hope some of the input was helpful. Good luck bro!

 

[Neo22]

I guess my goals are to pretty much stay as lean as possible while doing this...I just don't want to go over 10-12%....many of you guys are plus 15% which is fine because you know how to diet correctly, or some don't care to, ever.......I've worked too damn hard to get lean and I am afraid the food I eat will go to one place only...yup....the stomach. I've already increased my cals to 4,000 and guess what the first thing to fade it....and I'm not getting much stronger....my other fear is that I've done so much damage to my tendons and ligamens that even with all this eating, I'll never be strng again....even while on 250mg of cyp and 300mg of eq a week.....still nervous.

I'm 177 around 10%-11% and eat at least 320g of carbs to maintain my weight. I'm not even on gear. I honestly don't see why your so scared. If anyone should be scared of staying lean and trying to gain weight its those of us not on gear. Your on 500mg of sauce a week start eating, bc its pissing me off!!

 

[JKurz1]

I'm 177 around 10%-11% and eat at least 320g of carbs to maintain my weight. I'm not even on gear. I honestly don't see why your so scared. If anyone should be scared of staying lean and trying to gain weight its those of us not on gear. Your on 500mg of sauce a week start eating, bc its pissing me off!!

its 250 every two weeks chill.....

 

[Neo22]

its 250 every two weeks chill.....

.even while on 250mg of cyp and 300mg of eq a week

250mg + 300mg = 550mg

what dont you get?

 

[JKurz1]

you are an idiot........

 

[silverbackn]

its 250 every two weeks chill.....

I think he was just playing bro. I know you're situation is very different from most on here. It's a mental battle every step of the way. It's something that most on here haven't dealt with. Just try to understand that not everyone on here totally knows what's going on with you. Neo doesn't have any bad intentions.

 

[muscleup]

If your a hardgainer then you need to fucking eat and EAT BIG....Watching your carbs at night is simply stoping your gains.

You need those calories to full muscle growth and replace glycogen stores.

Me on the otherhand I dont need to eat that may carbs in the evening....also your diet to me looked pretty clean.