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California_Wife

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Hi!

I just turned 50 and I am in need of getting rid of some fat. I have pictures in my profile and as you will see I am in pretty good shape. I work out every day, starting with a 10 mile run usually and /or the stair master for another 30 mins. After this I workout with weights with my husband and we hit it pretty hard.

My problem is the dreaded hips and butt. I am very lean, well muscled up top but my butt is upper thighs are holding tight. 5'3 110lbs and I am getting a bit frustrated.

Thinking long and hard about Anavar. My husband is on T3 and T4 due to an exposure he was involved with and ruined his thyroid. T3 makes me very jittery so I doubt if Clenbuterol will suffice also. My diet is so very clean, rarely do I cheat but the darn butt fat stays.

HELP!
 
California_Wife said:
Hi!

I just turned 50 and I am in need of getting rid of some fat. I have pictures in my profile and as you will see I am in pretty good shape. I work out every day, starting with a 10 mile run usually and /or the stair master for another 30 mins. After this I workout with weights with my husband and we hit it pretty hard.

My problem is the dreaded hips and butt. I am very lean, well muscled up top but my butt is upper thighs are holding tight. 5'3 110lbs and I am getting a bit frustrated.

Thinking long and hard about Anavar. My husband is on T3 and T4 due to an exposure he was involved with and ruined his thyroid. T3 makes me very jittery so I doubt if Clenbuterol will suffice also. My diet is so very clean, rarely do I cheat but the darn butt fat stays.

HELP!
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Welcome !!

I did see the pics & WOW !! you look awesome... I would love to look like you at 50, You can really see all the hard work you've put in.
I hear you abou the hips & Butt, those are definitely my problem areas...
As lean as you are, I think anavar would be a good choice, just start low and increase it as you go.
I just started a var cycle 2 days ago, so I can't tell you from personal experience yet, but I've read a lot about it & is as safe as it gets for women.
I'll let u know how it goes for me.

Best of luck to u ! :)
 
Thank you for the kind remarks...I have worked hard and long and it does not get easier as you age! I was curious about bloat, I really dislike holding water.
 
Welcome to EF!
WOW is all I can say sista. You make 50 look very very nice chika!
Hope to see you stick around and get your old man on here too!
Best regards
Zed
 
California_Wife said:
Thank you for the kind remarks...I have worked hard and long and it does not get easier as you age! I was curious about bloat, I really dislike holding water.
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I know some women have posted that they had a bloat at first, I just started so can't tell u yet, so far my 3rd day no water bloat.

I hate holding water too.

and yes, it doesn't get easier with age ! but your a great example, that it can be done :)
 
I doubt that my husband will be on the forums. He has his hobbies too and I have to say that at 49 he looks incredible:chomp: 6 feet tall and he is running maybe 210lbs but not a lot of fat. I would guess 12-15% and he works out as much as he can when he gets the time. Has a very good sense of humor and would be fun here. He is kinda like George Clooney without the gray hair and a tighter body.

He has offered in the past his Cytomel/T3 but he also cautioned about hurting your thyroid. He takes T3 and T4 after he was caught up in a very bad explosion. It literally destroyed his hormones, his thyroid, etc. He is very knowledgeable on the guys side but not the womens. He trusts what the women are doing and not so much a guys perspective on what a woman should or should not do.

It was his encouragement to try this site, so here I am. I work my butt off in the gym. Every morning 5 am I do my run and I mean RUN HARD! I like to get the 10 miles in and hopefully the stair master is open for a good 30 minutes of more cardio. I go change and off to the weights do perform a routine he taught me. I do put on nice muscle fast but my darn butt and thighs are relentless in holding the fat.

My diet...it is so clean and my calories are about 800 on some days or 500 and others maybe 1200. I zig zag diet mostly to keep the body from setting the BMR but to no avail. Mostly greens, a little cheese and seldom meat...I stop eating at 5 pm and I do enjoy my coffee though..have my Keurig Coffee maker and I LOVE IT!

Bob had mentioned another pill which I fail to recall. He said to stay off Winstrol because of the joint issues and with my running that would not work. He did order a product called Forged something or other. I do not do well on diet stuff that causes jitters...just for what ever reason it sets me off badly.

I do enjoy heavy weights, I did get my bench press to 125 lbs and my arm curls I use 30 lbs dumb bells. I do not squat much but the last time I did 170lbs from the front side as that is Bobs favorite. These days it is Good Mornings, kick backs on the cable machines, leg extensions, walking lunges and squats against the wall. He mentioned trying squats using a box so maybe tomorrow I will give that a try.
 
The reason your body is holding on to what little fat you have is because you are starving it on those 500 or 800 cal days. That's not enough, even for 5'3".
I really don't understand how you can regularly function on so little nourishment- do you notice any other signs that you are not getting enough nourishment?
Dry/thinning hair, brittle nails, lack of energy, low blood pressure, constipation, bruise easily, dizziness, brain fog, get cold easily?
You are at a normal weight for your height, which leads me to believe your body has adapted to those low calorie days, and your metabolism has slowed. A person with a normal metabolism would lose weight (muscle then fat) very quickly on that little food, but you seem to have stalled.
I very humbly suggest you work on increasing your lean protein and healthy fat intake You will see an improvement in your energy, and your endurance will increase as well..
 
California_Wife said:
I doubt that my husband will be on the forums. He has his hobbies too and I have to say that at 49 he looks incredible:chomp: 6 feet tall and he is running maybe 210lbs but not a lot of fat. I would guess 12-15% and he works out as much as he can when he gets the time. Has a very good sense of humor and would be fun here. He is kinda like George Clooney without the gray hair and a tighter body.

He has offered in the past his Cytomel/T3 but he also cautioned about hurting your thyroid. He takes T3 and T4 after he was caught up in a very bad explosion. It literally destroyed his hormones, his thyroid, etc. He is very knowledgeable on the guys side but not the womens. He trusts what the women are doing and not so much a guys perspective on what a woman should or should not do.

It was his encouragement to try this site, so here I am. I work my butt off in the gym. Every morning 5 am I do my run and I mean RUN HARD! I like to get the 10 miles in and hopefully the stair master is open for a good 30 minutes of more cardio. I go change and off to the weights do perform a routine he taught me. I do put on nice muscle fast but my darn butt and thighs are relentless in holding the fat.

My diet...it is so clean and my calories are about 800 on some days or 500 and others maybe 1200. I zig zag diet mostly to keep the body from setting the BMR but to no avail. Mostly greens, a little cheese and seldom meat...I stop eating at 5 pm and I do enjoy my coffee though..have my Keurig Coffee maker and I LOVE IT!

Bob had mentioned another pill which I fail to recall. He said to stay off Winstrol because of the joint issues and with my running that would not work. He did order a product called Forged something or other. I do not do well on diet stuff that causes jitters...just for what ever reason it sets me off badly.

I do enjoy heavy weights, I did get my bench press to 125 lbs and my arm curls I use 30 lbs dumb bells. I do not squat much but the last time I did 170lbs from the front side as that is Bobs favorite. These days it is Good Mornings, kick backs on the cable machines, leg extensions, walking lunges and squats against the wall. He mentioned trying squats using a box so maybe tomorrow I will give that a try.
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Wow, 500 or 800 cals a day is extremely low, your body needs much more nutrients than 500 cals can provide.
Like Trex74 said, I think you should work on increasing your lean Protein and healthy fat intake,
You need to have your diet in check, before contemplating to use var.

If I could suggest this, I like doing Hip Lift Progression, I find it works really good for toning your butt, of course Squats are awesome, lunges (side to side lunges), Sliding lunges, I also love step ups..
Hip exts.. I think the trick is to do a variation of these to target different areas.


Good luck
& Take Care :)
 
At 50 the metabolism is not the machine it was once long ago. I eat a lot of fruit, more vegan than anything these days. As far as the side effects mentioned by Trex... none really. There is the customary age related issues but between the fiber, vitamins, gallon of water ever day and raising 4 kids that does make you tired...none to speak of..been this way for a decade. Up at 4am to work out and bed at 9pm 7 days a week. The age presents a problem you younger ladies have yet to endure, the metabolism needs some assistance as we age it does not function like it used to. I do take thyroid but it is t$ 125mcg ed. I change my cardio routines up frequently. At 1200 cals I feel like I had a feast, does not take make to give me a full feeling.

Will take your thoughts on the exercise variations, Thank You. Thank you both for your input, it is well taken and accepted
 
Sista get away from the leg extensions. That excersize has ruined more knees then any other excersize known!
At our age you cant afford to be doing that to yourself. PULEEZE do front squats instead. They actually make your knees healthier and in no way destroy what you already have.
Friends dont let friends do leg extensions (Moya) And its a dam good statement!
 
ok, no leg extensions. May I ask a question? The comment was made to not use Anavar unless my protein intake was better. Why is this? It's tough enough being 50 lest alone having to fighting all the other natural declines we go through...I really want to get this handled before I get REALLY old! :qt:
 
If you use any AAS without having your diet dialed in (exactly) you are basically throwing your money away and putting needless stress on your internal organs.
I fully agree that you really should look to your diet. And I fully agree with Trex.
For the best results that are fully attainable at our age with AAS, get your diet squared away first.
If you want guidance with that PM RADAR or Rotten Willow on here.
Your in tremendous shape right now and believe it or not you can still improve on that with the proper diet, workout and supplements.
Also for women Peptides can be extremely beneficial and Rotten Willow can give you loads of help there also, plus they are more healthy then AAS for the most part.
 
I appreciate the candidness, I truly do. My biggest fear and it is the age old woman's fear is increasing weight. I realize muscle is weight, etc but my preference is to be at around 106lbs and very toned. I am stubborn that way.

With regard to the peptides, I read some on it but not in totality. Injectables is something I rather veer from vs oral form. I will get with Radar and Willow about dome diet issues.
 
Something else for you chika.
Consider your thinking. Its not weight that you should be conserned about but rather fat.
Think this way, 106 Lbs at ohhh say 10% bf. Now that would look pretty dam nice, right?
But 106 lbs at something like 28% bf isnt gonna look quite as yummy is it?
So what is your lesson here? you tell me.
SERIOUSLY...plz.
 
Welcome to EF! :)

I just thought I'd add a couple things to the discussion for your consideration. I would first look at what you are hoping var will accomplish. It is not a fat burner but rather a method to build muscle. It would potentially change your bodyfat percentage ratio or you may build muscle in that region but you may or may not actually lose that stubborn fat. Var would be the best choice (imo) for a first cycle for a woman but it may not bring you the results you are seeking.

In terms of diet, the protein would be essential in running a cycle as it's the much needed ingredient for muscle building. No matter which diet method you use (keto, carb cycling etc) protein intake is usually at least 40% of the daily totals. I would agree with the others that 500-800 calories is very low, even factoring in age, and I would give some consideration to trying a gradual increase for a period of time. Even trying to get 1000-1200 for a couple of weeks. I think that would get your body and metabolism going again. It'll be hard to do but I think getting your overall intake up will make a difference in the long term fat loss, which is sometimes hard to wrap your head around. There's a book called the Stubborn Fat Solution by Lyle Macdonald that talks about different ways to tackle the stubborn fat issue. He has a website too with info on it.

The other thing to think about with starting a cycle is the impact it may have on your hormones. I'm a few years younger but not too much and have the ongoing peri menopause things. I have done a few cycles and I actually feel better on cycle but it's a real challenge coming off. The hormones crash and it takes me a long time to get back to some sort of "normal" feeling.

Anyway...just a few more thoughts to throw into the mix for you. Good luck!! :)
 
I am not surprised you feel full at 1200 cals, especially if it is in the form of fruits and vegetables. At first I thought your stomach may have shrunk from your starvation diet days, but then I remembered you are mostly vegan- lol. That is a lot of cellulose and water for the stomach.
It would not be difficult for you to adopt a vegan diet that was more calorically dense, and still have you not feeling too full.
I suggest adding more nuts/nut butter, seeds, bean pastes, coconut, dried fruit as well as ensuring you meet your protein needs. A gradual intake would be best.
I realize that food can be very emotional for some people, and you may be used to this sense of deprivation. It may be scary to try to change. It could very helpful for you to keep track of how you feel when you eat a bit more. Just my two cents.
 
Thank You ladies... the menopause era has come and gone thankfully..you have all given me much to consider and some great insight. I do consume the many things mentioned, just not on a rigid basis.. this can be so frustrating.
 
Hey sista, I aint no lady!!! LOL:evil:
 
just sayin hello. its kind of like picking up chicks in the girls washroom in here. no dudes but me... and apparently zed... i suppose lol

we got a cali girl and a cali wife now....... cali wife i thought u said u needed to get rid of some fat. u look better than the 22 year old im seeing. congratz and to both of you. nice pics
 
CoBra666 said:
just sayin hello. its kind of like picking up chicks in the girls washroom in here. no dudes but me... and apparently zed... i suppose lol

we got a cali girl and a cali wife now....... cali wife i thought u said u needed to get rid of some fat. u look better than the 22 year old im seeing. congratz and to both of you. nice pics
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Hey bro,
The sistas need help and attention too ya know!:biggrin:
 
California_Wife said:
I appreciate the candidness, I truly do. My biggest fear and it is the age old woman's fear is increasing weight. I realize muscle is weight, etc but my preference is to be at around 106lbs and very toned. I am stubborn that way.

With regard to the peptides, I read some on it but not in totality. Injectables is something I rather veer from vs oral form. I will get with Radar and Willow about dome diet issues.
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Unless your body recomp goals are quite lofty, it's very unlikely you need androgens to reach them. As for peptides, that might be a great idea. At 50 your GH production has fallen substantially from where it was 20 years ago. You are more likely to observe profoundly positive effects from modest doses of peptides than someone my age (28) and they've worked well for me too. Peptides are legal, oxandrolone ("anavar") is not. Oxandrolone can potentially increase your rate of muscle acquisition, but that's about it. GH promoting peptides can have a lot of positive effects, including muscle acquisition, fat loss, better sleep, improved connective tissue strength...many things. Just food for thought.

If you want to turn up the dial on your metabolic rate, diet and exercise can be quite powerful. If you haven't done so already you need to check the sticky thread at the top of this forum with the phrase "START HERE" in the subject line. Peruse that thread for carb rotation diets. That sort of diet is a good way to keep those thyroid levels up while in a caloric deficit. Another idea is to keep the calories at a break even and work towards building some muscle. As you gain muscle you'll need to add 200 to 300 calories total each day. Even as little as 5 additional pounds of muscle can increase your body's demand for calories by 300 every 24 hours. That means you'd have to eat 300 calories more every day just to maintain your weight. That's a real increase in metabolic rate, isn't it? Also, additional muscle makes you look harder. Always. Women rarely seem to realize this. So even if you didn't lose any fat at all, you'd look like you did. No jiggly arms or thighs.
 
See? I told you RW knows her stuff!
 
Zed.....:faint: I am so very sorry....I just assumed you where one of us...the avatar did throw me off and once I looked at your bio I understood...my apologies!
 
CoBra666 said:
just sayin hello. its kind of like picking up chicks in the girls washroom in here. no dudes but me... and apparently zed... i suppose lol

we got a cali girl and a cali wife now....... cali wife i thought u said u needed to get rid of some fat. u look better than the 22 year old im seeing. congratz and to both of you. nice pics
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Thank you CoBra666 but I do have a trouble area and it is not being picky either. It is very troublesome and nothing worse than being very lean all over but the butt and thighs...a mismatch and it really bothers me.
 
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with regard to muscle, I am definitely not lacking that. my upper arms are well built and very tight. My chest is tight as Bob has me do nothing but incline presses. Abs are decent. I do have a nice back, he makes me work that pretty heavy.

I can put more effort into my lower half. ..calves are decent but always had longer calves and never have been happy about that. My upper legs build muscle easily to the point they are too much... the ying and yang of it all
 
Hey sista!!!
Take that lesson from Marylin Monroe. High Heels Are A Girls Best Friend!
Shop for em.....Buy em.......Wear the hell out of em.
Besides they look dam sexy!!:D

Also for you calves, VOLUME!!
Ok so you wanna consider stuff like this,
Hold a dumbbell in one hand, step up on something about 4" high.
Hold dbl in right hand and stand on right leg. Do nice slow reps with a pause at the bottom and a pause with super flex at the top.
Wanna have your total reps around 70 minimum! However you get there is up to you.

What every you do for your calves run a min of 70 reps!
Good luck sista:supercool
 
You can always do calf raises in the shower too, it's a good spot for them :)
 
I also stretch out my back, shoulders, and arms in the shower- lol nice and warm.
 
Zed.... you sound like my husband about the high heels. Every time he goes back east or to Europe he buys heels...one day I will make HIM try them.. I like the routine you mentioned.
 
:d:):d
 
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