Nelson is correct, BB bench is pointless and outdated.

[MikeyG]

Did I say worthless? It is pointless. IE. I can cause more harm then good. You never have to touch BB bench for a nice chest, there for it is imop pointless.

What is your suggestion for a chest workout? I honestly am starting to feel some pain in my right shoulder due to heavy flat benches! but, My chest lacks the outer-peck-round development, but it is big and thick however.

I'm guessing Dips, Incline Dumbbell, flat flyes. ?

 

[WanTtoBeDeisel]

wow and to think this all spawned from my one little post... i feel special

 

[HighIntensity]

Re: Re: Nelson is correct, BB bench is pointless and outdated.

aren't you a personal trainer? how can you generalize and say that this is the best for everyone? i've found that i can move the most weight on barbell, just cause i don't have to worry about all the stabilization issues. and in order to build the biggest foundation, your chest needs to see high poundages. and the only way to move 450 lbs, is with barbells, they dont' make no 225 lbs dumbells, and if they did, you'd have to waste half your energy with bullshit like getting them into position before you could even start. don't get me wrong, i do dumbells. but workouts where i used all dumbells, 150 lb dumbells on flat, 140's on incline, etc, have always sucked. the only way i can get thoroughly sore is by doing a heavy barbell for at least one exercise, whether it's incline, flat or decline. then i move onto dumbells and flies once i've exposed my chest to extreme poundages.

yes I am a PT, and no you don't need BB bench for a good chest. Did I stutter somewhere? Try Doggcrapps routine with rest pauses for dbs and tell me if you feel the pump.

 

[Zoomster]

You guys make me laugh. Declines and dips both hit your lower pecs..you want that sag look? Do you damn bench..and inclines..quit whining...? Has anyone seen Vince Gironda? You want to look that that puss?

 

[Silent Method]

Did I say worthless?

No, Nelson did.

It is pointless.

I believe it has it's place.

IE. I can cause more harm then good.

So can dips.

You never have to touch BB bench for a nice chest, there for it is imop pointless.

There is no single exercise you "have to touch" for a nice chest. By your logic, would this mean each and every chest exercise is pointless?

IMO, benching is by far not the best move. It is not a necessary move. But it in not a pointless move.

 

[the nature boy]

So can dips.

yeah I partially tore my tricep doing dips, never had any problem with flat bench, especially since I mix up my chest routine.

 

[sergio]

Are you saying 3 chest exercises 3 times a week or 1 chest exercise 3 times a week? Can you please clarify?

Right now I'm working every body part 3 times every 8 days. Of course that is 1 exercise per bodypart. That is NOT overtraining. It is only maximiznig your growth periods.

Here is a quote from doggcrapp:

You feel you get stronger from week to week training this way? I couldn't make it to the gym 6 times a week if I wanted to..

 

[sergio]

IMHO it's all good....the idea is to mix it up. Period.

 

[spentagn]

LMAO

 

[Andy13]

I agree that the bench may be worthless to some, yet the most important exercise to another person...

For instance, if you are interested in developing functional strength to some degree in additon to building size.. and it would also be nice to be able to CONTINUE building that size and functional strength w/out being sidelined with injuries.. then perhaps, you may very well leave the flat bench off of your routine..

However.. If your goal is simply "increase one rep max on flat barbell bench," well then this exercise becomes important to you.. Especially if you are one of those guys that hasn't figured it out yet that chicks at the bar couldn't give a rat's ass how much some muscle head says he benches..

Dream on, Nelson.. I got flamed to hell and back some time ago when I said that 'behind the neck lat pulldowns' and "palms-up triceps cable extensions (push downs)" are worthless exercises..

I'm far from one of these exercise phys guys who can, not only NAME each muscle known to man, but also pronounce it correctly.. But as illinformed as I may be, I still shit my pants from time to time when reading about some of these crack-pipe 'theories" encountered here..

Andy