My Diet/Training....Starting 2/16/04

[Quadsweeps Sister]

daisy's diet - goin to the show...

10mg British Dragon Var - help with maintaining muscle

Thermos - Hydroxycut for first 6 weeks or so, then add T-Rex for last 6 weeks or so. T-Rex really helps me with losing water and suppressing appetite

Yohimburn ES when I get below 15% - on abs, hips, inner thighs

Glucorell-R with carb meals, and on cheat day.

Protein Shakes - NitroTech

VERY rarely, I'll eat a bar, this is only in a serious pinch - MesoTech or NitroTech bar

*Cheat day for next 4 weeks or so will be eat "whatever" for first 8 hours of SUnday, then finish day with clean eating. Next 4 weeks will be 1 cheat meal on Sunday (first meal). Last 4 weeks NO cheating. My cheating plan may be revamped if results stall or if they come really fast, even with cheating. We'll see.

I just had a quick question and don't think i'm being a shit now... but why do you have cheat meals in your pre-contest diet? At 12 weeks out and to lose 6% is tough, but i would try for 10% bf, especially if it is a national qualifier and your making the time & $$$ sacrifice to travel. Just wanna see you kick some ass.

Again, as always, just my opinion - but i would never let any of the people i trained to compete have any cheat meals pre-contest. It is okay though to have a carb up meal twice weekly replacing that 5th meal to jump start your metabolism. 6oz sweet potato, 1 cup brown rice, 1/2 banana and 1 tbsp butter, cinnamon, splenda - yummy and no guilt feelings!

 

[Daisy_Girl]

No offense taken at all..... I am open to ANY comments, pro or con.

In the past I have NEEDED cheat days/meals, sanity-wise. This HAS to scale back drastically, I know. Sunday has always been a free-for-all in my house. lol I am viewing my Cheat Days differently now though - precontest - Sunday will be more of a carb up day. I worded it as cheat day for simplicity. I will certainly take your advice to heart though. I have to stick to clean carbs, even clean starchy carbs, on Sunday - not crap.

I'm going to see how this goes - I have a feeling that I will lose 3-4% pretty easily in the first 4 weeks, but then will fight for more. Results will make cheating less desireable....hopefully...

 

[LaDyBuG]

daisy, what all does the figure competition entail? what are you judged on?

 

[Daisy_Girl]

Fitness but without routine. Figure Competitors typically have a tiny bit more BF than Fitness - but not much more. Some equate it to a Fitness Beauty Pagent.....lol. Judged on symmetry, muscle, definition, posing, suit, etc - all the same things a Fitness but NO gymnastics or tumbling.

Oh, and QS Sis - it IS a NQ....so you are right on the cheat days, I gotta minimize them majorly.

 

[LaDyBuG]

this figure comp thing sounds pretty interesting to me...something i might like to consider doing in the next few years...where can i find more info about them? websites? something to that nature...just wanna learn more about it...maybe try and go see a comp in my area....what percent bodyfat is competitive? just curious...thanks! katie

 

[Daisy_Girl]

this figure comp thing sounds pretty interesting to me...something i might like to consider doing in the next few years...where can i find more info about them? websites? something to that nature...just wanna learn more about it...maybe try and go see a comp in my area....what percent bodyfat is competitive? just curious...thanks! katie

There are so many different federations....here are a couple sites to get you started...

www.npconline.com
www.getbig.com - click on contests, you can get info on the different federations here

BF can depend on federations, and even then judging isn't always consistant (hard, since how one looks is subjective). NPC Figure is prob ~11-12% maybe little lower, depending on size of compe and if it is a Nat'l Qualifier. Best thing to do is find a comp, go to it and see the competitors. Go to as many comp's as you can - this is invaluable.

 

[Raina]

Even if you're not ready to compete yet I'd suggest to anyone to find a competition in their state and go. It's inspiring and awesome. Plus then you can decide if it's really something you want to do!

I'm excited to see your progress Daisy!

 

[Steel007]

I'd say no refeeds FIRST 4 weeks, and definitely refeeds LAST 4 weeks, when you actually need them to raise leptin levels and keep your metabolism going. Too much cardio to start with - if you throw EVERYTHING in right from the beginning, you have nothing to up the ante with later when fat loss stalls. I'd also lower the reps - keep them around 7, or lower sometimes. 10 won't do anything for you at this stage.

I strongly recommend reading MS's posts re: refeeds, as well as everything Par Deus has written on leptin and refeeds. You'll see the biochemical/physiological rationale for scheduling them into the diet week.

(Oh, this is SteelWeaver - my name got closed down because I didn't visit for a while - if there's anything you can do about that, it would be nice )

I wish you the best of luck - I'm sure you're gonna be great.

 

[Daisy_Girl]

Whoops - forgot I didn't update this thread with my changes...

I am started with Cardio 3x week (HIIT) for 30 min (MWF).
Lifting is 3x per week, with 10 min WU on Treadmill. I might add in another short lifting day - as I drop BF I'll re-evaluate where might benefit from a little extra training.

Steel - good thought on rep dropping. I have been pushing myself harder, so the reps are more towards 8 now....but I'll keep them there. You are right about 10 being useless now.

I am not going to add more cardio until I have to. I am taking weekly pictures, as well as BF and weight, so I'll be able to quantatatively view my progress. This way I can change what isn't working based off the numbers.

I am going to keep Sunday as a re-feed/cheat day (whatever you want to call it). It is my only day off work/school and mentally, I have to have something to look forward to on that day. It will NOT be a free-for-all, but a controlled refueling of my body. It might not be the best idea, but I'll chance it. Live and learn!

For the next 4 weeks (13-9) I'll have some carbs (mostly simple) in my meals for the first 8 hours, then it is Fibrous Veggies only.

Weeks 8-4 I'll have 1 carb up meal on Sunday.

Weeks 4-1 I'll have 1-2 carb up meals...we'll see.

This is obviously going to be re-evaluated as I go along. I've never done this before, so I am sure I'll make changes.

 

[liftingirl]

hey Daisy Girl

Youre transformation is just awesome, I had a quick question to ask you though:

What do you do for your post workout meal/shake
I see you workout in the evenings and i was wondering whether you through in some carbs there, or whether you let it be just protein and fat ...

Thanks !! and good luck with the competition