Props to everyone for their input and contributions towards making this an OK thread. I tried to give karma to most of you, except Paulo who is already too bloated from green K. Kidding.
OMT--anyone have more insight on CEE? Ulter seems to push it a lot because of his involvement with A-F (I think), but to anyone else who has simply used it with unbiased opinions (no offense intended to Ulter), what were your results like? Most interested in bros who just used the creatine, no AAS or anything else, so that gains and sides are more accurate. Thanks again fellas.
-e