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I'm supposed to consume 1800 cals daily to BULK, does this sound right to you?

NormanNormal

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OK so as many of you know I'm 5'7" 105lbs guy and I'm trying to BULK (of course). I have checked many online calculators and asked a few supposed experts and apparently I'm supposed to consume my body weight x 18 to bulk up. At my weight that comes out to around 1800 cals... this seems really low to me.

everyone tells me I need to eat 3K-4K cals per day but then these calculators are telling me I need 1800 ONLY. Some people are telling me if I eat anymore than that I will gain lots of fat. Who is in the wrong here? I originally made a 3K cal diet that I really like but now im now sure if I should use it or cut back my cals to 1800 max.

What do you guys think? TIA

(i'll post my diet I made earlier in a min)
 
OK here is the diet I made.. it varies from day to day but this is mainly it:

Diet:

Workout days:

8:00am:

2 scoops N-Large2
1 Banana
1.5 tbsp flaxseed oil

11:00am

5 oz chicken breast (no skin)
1 cup carrots (raw)
1 Multi-vitamin

2:00pm

1 Protein Bar (296 cals 33g protein)
2 slices Wheat Bread

5:00pm

5 oz chicken breast (no skin)
1 cup brown rice (cooked)
1 tsp glutamine powder
1000mg vitamin c
.5 scoop Phosphagen HP

6:00pm

(workout)

post workout: carb drink (twin lab ultra fuel)
1 tsp glutamine powder
1000mg vitamin c
.5 scoop Phosphagen HP

8:00pm

2 scoops N-Large2
1 Banana
1.5 tbsp flaxseed oil

11:00pm

1 scoop precision protein
1.5 tbsp flaxseed oil
1 tsp glutamine powder
1000mg vitamin c
1000mg calcium

Sleep

Totals:

Cals: 3105
Protein: 196g
Carbs: 392g
Fats: 87g
Fiber:26g


Non-workout days
no post workout carb drink, 400 cals less
 
NormanNormal said:
OK so as many of you know I'm 5'7" 105lbs guy and I'm trying to BULK (of course). I have checked many online calculators and asked a few supposed experts and apparently I'm supposed to consume my body weight x 18 to bulk up. At my weight that comes out to around 1800 cals... this seems really low to me.

everyone tells me I need to eat 3K-4K cals per day but then these calculators are telling me I need 1800 ONLY. Some people are telling me if I eat anymore than that I will gain lots of fat. Who is in the wrong here? I originally made a 3K cal diet that I really like but now im now sure if I should use it or cut back my cals to 1800 max.

What do you guys think? TIA

(i'll post my diet I made earlier in a min)

What is an estimation of your BF%? A more accurate formula I like to use is to multiple your LBM in kg (weight - BF) by 21.6 then adding 370 to determine your BMR. Then multiply this figure from anywhere between 1.3 - 1.75 depending on your current lifestyle, how often you lift, cardio, etc. Then add 500 to this figure if you are trying to bulk.

1800 calories does seem a little low, even for a light person such as yourself.
 
NormanNormal said:
OK so as many of you know I'm 5'7" 105lbs guy and I'm trying to BULK (of course).

these calculators are telling me

if I eat anymore than that I will gain lots of fat.


bro youre emaciated...five seven hundred lbs?

forget eating clean foods and supplementing right now, youve got organ tissue to rebuild

focus on protein and just eat alot all the time until you are at a healthy weight, then start slowly going to clean foods after youve gained some lean and want to dial it all in
 
|D_J^B_J| said:
What is an estimation of your BF%? A more accurate formula I like to use is to multiple your LBM in kg (weight - BF) by 21.6 then adding 370 to determine your BMR. Then multiply this figure from anywhere between 1.3 - 1.75 depending on your current lifestyle, how often you lift, cardio, etc. Then add 500 to this figure if you are trying to bulk.

1800 calories does seem a little low, even for a light person such as yourself.

I have calipers here and did a 9-site test on myself (which is quite difficult to do by yourself) and it came out to about 12% BF.. not sure if thats accurate or not.
 
So according to the formula I just posted, you should be looking to consume around 2400 calories per day. However, as was posted above, you might be better off eating as much as you can and not worrying about BF gain until you more of an ideal weight range.
 
|D_J^B_J| said:
So according to the formula I just posted, you should be looking to consume around 2400 calories per day. However, as was posted above, you might be better off eating as much as you can and not worrying about BF gain until you more of an ideal weight range.

Well I can always do the 3K diet and keep measuring my BF% and if it goes up too high I can just drop back to 2400 cals right?
 
That'd probably be the best way to go. The speed of your metabolism also plays a role in how many calories you should be consuming and yours must be exceptionally high considering how light you are.

Best of luck and let us know how you go.
 
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