Getting into single digit bf is frigin a lot harder than I thought.Need motivation.

[gymratforlife]

Re: Getting into single digit bf is frigin a lot harder than I thought.Need motivatio

I have a very simple answer for you: YOU ARE OVERTRAINING

diet info: http://www.mmsfitness.com/forumdisplay.php?f=16

Mr.X

I dont think I am overtraining because I am definetly losing fat and my strngth is still through the roof.I am on a cycle of course too,maybe you overlooked that.

 

[Mr.X]

Re: Getting into single digit bf is frigin a lot harder than I thought.Need motivatio

I dont think I am overtraining because I am definetly losing fat and my strngth is still through the roof.I am on a cycle of course too,maybe you overlooked that.

1)you CAN overtrain on a cycle

2) you're doing too much cardio

3) you need a break , a long refeed


Mr.X

 

[panther64]

I don't post much on here but I figured I'd post on this one.
In a nutshell... Dude!
All that freakin' cardio is not necessary. Like others have said.... Way too much. Do you know your BF% for sure? You said where you started and from your post you weren't clear if your bodyfat had changedto 12% for sure. If it has changed but only thatmuch. You probably HAVE lost some bf but the amount of cardio that you are doing has slowed/stopped your progress asfar as muscle growth (cycle or not) BF% is a combination of fat loss and Muscle growth.

I'm with everyone else. you need a break from all thatcardio. Here's a suggestion that you will probably hate...

3 days a week do a full body workout e.g.:
Warm up then... (all sets 65-70% of max for 15 reps)
Squat thrusts (Don't skip this one)
Dumbell Presses (strict)
Barbell Rows
Arnold Presses
Barbell Curls
Tricep Extensions with EZ Curl Bar
Lunges (15 on each side)
Hanging Leg Raises
Rest for 90 seconds

Repeat One or two times if you can take it. Absolutely NO REST between exercises.

I guarantee that if you do this you will not miss a beat with your growth, Your heart will feel like it is going to jump out of your chest, and you will only need to do cardio on your days off from the weights... Once/day.

I know that you are checking your protein intake, but make sure you are getting enough carbs too. Working out as hard as you have been, there is a possibility that if your carbs are too low to support your caloric needs that your protein is being used for energy instead of muscle building. (Unless you are REALLY careful doing your cardio, your body will burn carbs/glycogen instead of BF... Just a thought)

Hope this helps.

PEACE,

 

[timtim]

(Unless you are REALLY careful doing your cardio, your body will burn carbs/glycogen instead of BF... Just a thought)

could you elaborate on this a little more.

 

[gymratforlife]

Re: Getting into single digit bf is frigin a lot harder than I thought.Need motivatio

1)you CAN overtrain on a cycle

2) you're doing too much cardio

3) you need a break , a long refeed


Mr.X

I was thinking that I need a few days off to reset my metabolism.Let me explain a little more about coming down from 246lbs at 40%+ bf in the last 3 years or so.I am not new to aas or the diet/nutrition game.I was about the same size that I am today at around 8-10%bf is what I stayed at all year.Then life happened,I went away to the marines and came out of boot camp some how almost 30lbs lighter with the same bf%.I went out into the fleet and from all the stress on my body from the life of an infantry marine the last thing I ever wanted to do was look at a weight room when we got in from the fields.When I got out I was around 200lbs and 15+bf.Got married didnt think about the weights for like another 2-3 years ate like a slob all kinds of fast foods and everything I could shove in my face fast enough.I had started my own car dealership and it became my life more so than my own.I went from a 31 to a 40 waist in short order.Now remember I am only 5'6" so you can imagine 246 and a 40 waist at 5'6".Thats the last number I saw on the scale before I got so embarrased and got a gym membership that day.I was messing around with juice back 10 years ago when things werent as easy as they are today.I remember you were lucky if you got 5 pins total with your 10cc cycle of upjohn depo test and had to reuse em all the time lol.I remember complaining that pins were like dull nails to my friends in the gym and they were like sorry man no more around lol.The only EQ you could get was vet grade and 50mg and everything else was pharmaceutical or vet grade and lower mgs than today.The only source of info was musclemedia2000 or the dan duchaine books or the anabolic reference guides or gym buddies,no internet like we have now and no PCT protocol lol.So when I came back 10 years later after training clean for 2 and losing all that weight and asked some friends for some juice they showed me some UG cyp that was 400mg I bursted out laughing till I had tears in my eyes and said to them thats the worse counterfit I have ever seen.Then they told me that a lot of things had changed lol,and I was like a little kid in a candy store lol.The thing that I am trying to get at here is that I didnt jump right into doing 2 hours of cardio a day and I dont do that every day but 3-4 days a week depending on how I feel as far as fatigue.My diet is definetly on I know that.I have gotten to 2 hours a day raising the cardio as I have striped off the bf.I am actually pretty sure I am bellow 12% right now,I can see 6 of my abbs.What I am worried about is that since I let my bf get so high at some point in my life that this is the reason why the last cells are so hard to get off?Sorry to rant lol just took my am ephedra.

 

[shape]

Re: Getting into single digit bf is frigin a lot harder than I thought.Need motivatio

I was thinking that I need a few days off to reset my metabolism.Let me explain a little more about coming down from 246lbs at 40%+ bf in the last 3 years or so.I am not new to aas or the diet/nutrition game.I was about the same size that I am today at around 8-10%bf is what I stayed at all year.Then life happened,I went away to the marines and came out of boot camp some how almost 30lbs lighter with the same bf%.I went out into the fleet and from all the stress on my body from the life of an infantry marine the last thing I ever wanted to do was look at a weight room when we got in from the fields.When I got out I was around 200lbs and 15+bf.Got married didnt think about the weights for like another 2-3 years ate like a slob all kinds of fast foods and everything I could shove in my face fast enough.I had started my own car dealership and it became my life more so than my own.I went from a 31 to a 40 waist in short order.Now remember I am only 5'6" so you can imagine 246 and a 40 waist at 5'6".Thats the last number I saw on the scale before I got so embarrased and got a gym membership that day.I was messing around with juice back 10 years ago when things werent as easy as they are today.I remember you were lucky if you got 5 pins total with your 10cc cycle of upjohn depo test and had to reuse em all the time lol.I remember complaining that pins were like dull nails to my friends in the gym and they were like sorry man no more around lol.The only EQ you could get was vet grade and 50mg and everything else was pharmaceutical or vet grade and lower mgs than today.The only source of info was musclemedia2000 or the dan duchaine books or the anabolic reference guides or gym buddies,no internet like we have now and no PCT protocol lol.So when I came back 10 years later after training clean for 2 and losing all that weight and asked some friends for some juice they showed me some UG cyp that was 400mg I bursted out laughing till I had tears in my eyes and said to them thats the worse counterfit I have ever seen.Then they told me that a lot of things had changed lol,and I was like a little kid in a candy store lol.The thing that I am trying to get at here is that I didnt jump right into doing 2 hours of cardio a day and I dont do that every day but 3-4 days a week depending on how I feel as far as fatigue.My diet is definetly on I know that.I have gotten to 2 hours a day raising the cardio as I have striped off the bf.I am actually pretty sure I am bellow 12% right now,I can see 6 of my abbs.What I am worried about is that since I let my bf get so high at some point in my life that this is the reason why the last cells are so hard to get off?Sorry to rant lol just took my am ephedra.

is it loose skin from being at 40% ---could be---if u can see 6 abs u should be around 10 or less-anyone disagree????????

 

[gymratforlife]

Re: Getting into single digit bf is frigin a lot harder than I thought.Need motivatio

is it loose skin from being at 40% ---could be---if u can see 6 abs u should be around 10 or less-anyone disagree????????

No you can see your abbs at around 14% the top 4.This depends on how big those muscles are and how much they protrude also.Surprisingly I have no lose skin at all or stretch marks my skin has always been amaizingly elastic.I ran some gh in the past 2 years also for this purpose so that may have helped a lot.Just to give you guys an idea these were taken about 4-5 weeks ago Id say at around 14% I quite a bit leaner right now for sure Id say around 12% maybe a tad lower first time actually ever runing enanthate,for some reason all my cycles contained cyp lol, and it seems like its making me bloat a lot so its hard to tell really.

 

[nsashbl01]

As it's been said here, too much cardio imo. I am a believer in cardio for short term fat loss, but too much muscle goes with it if your not getting a shitload of carbs. Over the years I've learned that it's almost all diet. Then sleep, then the training. Don't try to do it too fast or you will never stay lean. Keep building muscle and learning how your body reacts to food. Cycle carbs, 20 - 30 minutes of HIT cardio 2 or 3 times a week max. Work on the diet man, it'll come then. I have found at 36yrs old, that I'm able to stay leaner (7-8.5%) than I could at 21 with no cardio. I just needed to get my diet straight. Good luck...