First Cycle.....

[RippedForcex1]

hah, stone, your telling me. My buddy who I work out with stuck himself the first day he got it, and I was like "Uhh... I need to research some stuff first," thats why I'm here. one of my buddy's recently turned me on to DSN's True Mass to replace the choc milk, which I'll probably be purchasing here shortly. In the beginning, I did gain 15lbs over a span of 3 months from the choc milk (960 calories and 36g of protien per quart) and a healthy diet, but I'm also taking all 20 amino acids with a alot of di&tri peptides.

I am researching like crazy, the more I know the better. I've read that nolvadex is: " NOLVADEX® (tamoxifen citrate) Tablets, a nonsteroidal antiestrogen, are for oral administration." but obvisouly i need to research more to figure out the difference between an anti-aromatizing agent and an estrogen receptor modulator.

 

[StoneOfFire]

i think an anti-aromatizing agent is something that interferes with the aromatization of androgens to estrogens. something like Arimidex. i guess you would take them during your cycle, when androgen levels are high and likely to be aromatized

and im not sure but i think Estrogen Receptor Modulators bind to estrogen receptors,
preventing estrogens (like estradiol) from binding to them and causing unwanted effects

i've never use an AI before,
but after a cycle i always use Nolvadex - Tamoxifen Citrate, a SERM
40mg ED for a couple weeks
then 20mg for a couple weeks

i once used Nolva AND Clomid and that was nice..

i wish i could tell you about HCG,
but i dont know much about it except that we both should learn about it.

 

[Varga]

Stats?

I'll admit, I ocassionally miss A day. Never more than 1!

So tell me something....when do you give your body a chance to grow if you workout 7 days a week?

 

[RADAR]

i think an anti-aromatizing agent is something that interferes with the aromatization of androgens to estrogens. something like Arimidex. i guess you would take them during your cycle, when androgen levels are high and likely to be aromatized

and im not sure but i think Estrogen Receptor Modulators bind to estrogen receptors,
preventing estrogens (like estradiol) from binding to them and causing unwanted effects

i've never use an AI before,
but after a cycle i always use Nolvadex - Tamoxifen Citrate, a SERM
40mg ED for a couple weeks
then 20mg for a couple weeks

i once used Nolva AND Clomid and that was nice..

i wish i could tell you about HCG,
but i dont know much about it except that we both should learn about it.

HCG increases the body´s natural testosterone levels its use during long or extremely high dosed cycles can be most beneficial were the effects on the hypothalamus causes a depressed signal to the testicles. The result of the depressed signal leads to what is known as testicular atrophy (shrunken nuts). The use of HCG will send an artificial signal to the testes (again, as if it were actually LH), thus preventing (to some degree) atrophy. It not only helps to maintain testicular size and condition but it will also help in restoring testicles back to their original size. At a time when below normal androgen levels (due to ASS use) could become costly. Restarting natural testosterone production as quickly as possible is of a special concern in males at the end of a cycle of AAS. The price paid by bodybuilders for failing to raise natural test levels is the loss of most if not all the hard earned muscle you have gained, the main cause is cortisol. Cortisol sends a message to the muscles that is opposite to that of testosterone. If cortisol is not dealt with (because of an extremely low testosterone level) it will quickly strip away the new and hard earned muscle you have just gotten.

Some users find that they have better gains and quicker recovery while using HCG during a cycle of AAS. This first claim is more than likely due to the fact that the body has a high level of natural testosterone as well as that provided by the use of AAS, and the second may be somewhat justifiable, as stimulating the testes to secrete testosterone intermittently may aid recovery.



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[RADAR]

So tell me something....when do you give your body a chance to grow if you workout 7 days a week?

I also agree, rest is every bit as vital as training, & sleep plus diet, everyone of them fits into the equasion!



RADAR