Diet is the key..

[xrsist]

i thought i should make a thread on this.. i see it everywhere that someone wants to do xxxxx amount of gear, then when you ask hows your diet look.. "well i have oats in the morning then some pop tarts then a protein shake then some chicken and i cant seem to grow" this is the main reason your not growing, your diet... all of the experenced guys and gals here will know that diet is the key, this needs to be drummed into all newbies heads, get your diet perfectly tuned first before even thinking about aas. why use 500mg of gear when you can use 250-300mg of gear with a perfect diet and yeld the same results?? anyway just though id throw this out there. cheers

 

[mickeyb69]

Youn know I was thinking the same thing. They say great minds think alike. Cheers!

 

[holy ghost]

Xrsist is a good bro

 

[Tatyana]

I completely agree.

You are what you eat, or garbage/rubbish in = garbage/rubbish out.

There are those that are 'lucky' and can eat whatever they want and train and not have to worry about bodyfat.

I was one of those.

I became a veggie quite young, and although I am not now (I didn't like eggs enough to be a veggie bodybuilder), it did help me to learn how to feed myself better.

However, just because it is in a health food store, it does not make it healthy food. A lot of the swirly granola crunchy tree hugging organic food is FULL of sugar (even if it is organic brown cane sugar).

Anyway, I could eat whatever I wanted, and as long as I was training, no problem.

It did catch up with me though, and when I moved to England and in the first 6-9 months of getting settled, not training etc, I put on 3 stone, 45 lbs or 20 kg of FLAB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Needless to say, I lost the weight, but I didn't train, and all I ended up was being a lot smaller and fat.

Like I have said, I am lucky (mesomorph type), and within a month to a month and a half of training I was back in shape again.

It has been a process in learning what my body responds too (it likes meat), and I have also learned that even off season I have to be responsible.

Not taking any pharma fat burners, I don't get the severe rebound of fat gain people often get when they come off, and after being able to eat 2000-3000 kcals/day just to maintain muscle at 10% bodyfat, I thought I was a bit bomb proof, WRONG

I would assert that most peeps do not have a clue about nutrition. If they did, they wouldn't be running to take so many performance enhancing drugs, it is possible to get a great physique without them, just takes a bit longer and a bit more effort.

But the thing about doing it without drugs, you keep your gains...........



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[xrsist]

I completely agree.

You are what you eat, or garbage/rubbish in = garbage/rubbish out.

There are those that are 'lucky' and can eat whatever they want and train and not have to worry about bodyfat.

I was one of those.

I became a veggie quite young, and although I am not now (I didn't like eggs enough to be a veggie bodybuilder), it did help me to learn how to feed myself better.

However, just because it is in a health food store, it does not make it healthy food. A lot of the swirly granola crunchy tree hugging organic food is FULL of sugar (even if it is organic brown cane sugar).

Anyway, I could eat whatever I wanted, and as long as I was training, no problem.

It did catch up with me though, and when I moved to England and in the first 6-9 months of getting settled, not training etc, I put on 3 stone, 45 lbs or 20 kg of FLAB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Needless to say, I lost the weight, but I didn't train, and all I ended up was being a lot smaller and fat.

Like I have said, I am lucky (mesomorph type), and within a month to a month and a half of training I was back in shape again.

It has been a process in learning what my body responds too (it likes meat), and I have also learned that even off season I have to be responsible.

Not taking any pharma fat burners, I don't get the severe rebound of fat gain people often get when they come off, and after being able to eat 2000-3000 kcals/day just to maintain muscle at 10% bodyfat, I thought I was a bit bomb proof, WRONG

I would assert that most peeps do not have a clue about nutrition. If they did, they wouldn't be running to take so many performance enhancing drugs, it is possible to get a great physique without them, just takes a bit longer and a bit more effort.

But the thing about doing it without drugs, you keep your gains...........



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this girl knows what she is talking about, love ya tat. newbies please listen and learn for your own benifit

 

[UncleSam]

i thought i should make a thread on this.. i see it everywhere that someone wants to do xxxxx amount of gear, then when you ask hows your diet look.. "well i have oats in the morning then some pop tarts then a protein shake then some chicken and i cant seem to grow" this is the main reason your not growing, your diet... all of the experenced guys and gals here will know that diet is the key, this needs to be drummed into all newbies heads, get your diet perfectly tuned first before even thinking about anabolic androgenic steroids. why use 500mg of gear when you can use 250-300mg of gear with a perfect diet and yeld the same results?? anyway just though id throw this out there. cheers

couldn't agree more. i dont have a gifted metabolism and i learned my lesson on my second cycle. i foucused more on calories i was taking in, and when i was consuming my carbs (in relationship to exercise) and where they fell on the glycemic index. And my results were comperable to the first cycle i did with less gear.... AKA Less MONEY SPENT!!

anyone new to the game listen to Xrsist!!

a little K for ya

 

[Selfcentor]

i thought i should make a thread on this.. i see it everywhere that someone wants to do xxxxx amount of gear, then when you ask hows your diet look.. "well i have oats in the morning then some pop tarts then a protein shake then some chicken and i cant seem to grow" this is the main reason your not growing, your diet... all of the experenced guys and gals here will know that diet is the key, this needs to be drummed into all newbies heads, get your diet perfectly tuned first before even thinking about anabolic androgenic steroids. why use 500mg of gear when you can use 250-300mg of gear with a perfect diet and yeld the same results?? anyway just though id throw this out there. cheers

GREAT point!

 

[slat1]

Great thread.
I feel like a douche because I write this all the time:

"I am 250 with 8 abs and I grow nicely off 275/week"

If one moron tells someone its okay to do something stupid they will do it.
Everyone wants to think the magic is in the gear.
Until they get older and wiser they will not realize its the food. Whole foods!

 

[Selfcentor]

I agree whole food is the best, But i beleive proteinshakes, meal replacements are also important. There are sometimes you can not get all the protein you need in one day or for convinence.

 

[holy ghost]

yeah they are important SUPPLEMENTALLY
not as a whole source