Dealift: need help with reps and form

[rgosit]

What is good rep range for building strength in the deadlift?
how is- 12-10-8-6-6-4??

also with my form.. i feel like i cant get my ass down far enough and im doing to much of like an rdl..and on the way down..its like im gliding down my thighs.. then the weight just drops...

i will be training deadlifts on tuesday with my hamstrings
and on friday squating and working my quads....

Im also looking for some grip, and trap work on my dead day.

 

[GRIMMER]

I would only train deadlift on tuesday, once per week. Diong two big movements for legs in the same week like deads and squats or leg press does not leave any time for recovery. Do you keep the bar on the shins on the way up? This could be why yo can't get low enough . Try moving the bar out about an inch or two from the shins to help you get set lower but still keep your shoulders behind the bar.
The rep range is tough to firgure out. How experienced are you at them. If youi are not that experienced i would say do 10-8-6-4 and before each rep reset and then pull insted of bouncing it off the ground. Don't go to failure on any of the sets except maybe the last set of 4. It should be a weight that you could not get a 5th time but all the others should be about two reps shy of failure. You can work on form by doing speed pulls with about 50% of your max on Fri. for 4or 5 sets of two
To work the grip you can do pin pulls or possibly static holds with a heavy wieght, I don't really ork grip that much so someone else acan help.

 

[rgosit]

so if im squating heavy friday... you dont suggest deadlifting heavy tuesday?

i wont go to failure im not that expeireinced, i havent done them in a few years since my first football coach left.. he was big on them then the knew coach didn't include them in our lifting program.. ill work on my form... should i go sumo? or conventianal,,? should i have my hands 1 palm up and theother palm down?

thanx

 

[GRIMMER]

I would do one or the other. dead heavy squat light or dead light and squat hevy on there respected days. You don't even need to train deadlift every week. Some people think you should only dead 1-2 times a month. Conventional probably has a better carrypver to sports and grip is whatever is comfortable. Iether way its up to you. Forget the 4 rep set and just train in the 10-6 range with a comfortable weight until you get it down.

 

[b fold the truth]

GRIMMER is correct. There is no need to do them weekly or twice a week.

I plan on doing them lightly once a week to help with my event training. I only plan on doing singles and at 70-85% of my 1RM.

Box Squats, if done properly, work the same muscles as the deadlift.

Try sumo and conventional...if you are not as strong in one of them...then that is what you need to train. There should be no difference in them.

B True

 

[ZZuluZ]

I never understood the point in pyramiding upwards? If anything you should pyramid downwards.... start with your heaviest set (unless the previous ones are warm-ups of course).

You don't even need to deadlift every week...most big lifters train the deadlift only train the DL once a month, tops.

-Zulu

 

[al bundy]

Have you seen this article? I looked at it a long time ago and now My deadlift is by far my best lift, solves many misconceptions http://www.testosterone.net/articles/194dead.html

 

[rgosit]

if i deadlift kinda light..under fialure..can i still blast my hamstrings bad?
doing RDL's and leg curl..or should i maybe only do rdl's and leg curls?? and deadlift sparingly? what else can i do to blast my hams?? i dont think there is a glute ham raise in my gym..

im looking to blast my hams on tuesday, and kill my quads w\ squat friday..

 

[ZZuluZ]

Your quads aren't very useful for a big squat.

And fuck the leg curls.

-Zulu

 

[GRIMMER]

Pullthroughs work well if done heavy