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julesW

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I have been weight training and have gotten the results I've wanted in my upper body, easily. The problem I have is that I work out my legs the hardest and see the least results. I no longer lift calves (busted a zipper on my boots), I run 12 - 15 miles a week and do 5 days of 30 - 40 minutes of cardio a week, and lift 4 times a week. When I do legs I usually do 3 sets of 15 reps maxing out on the last set. I usually do squats, leg extension, hip sled, lunges, deadlifts, leg curls, and hip abductor/aductor. My ex boyfriend recommended doing a cycle of primo or var. I have only used thermogenics and creatine in the past. Does anyone have any suggestions or workout pointers? I'm very frustrated at this point. I'm not huge, 5'4" 132 lbs and comfortable with my size I just want ripped thighs and a tight butt. My legs are nice, but the but is not flabby, just extremely soft for as hard as I work it out.
 
Yea, first don't go w/ teh ex boyfriend & primo approach.... That's a whole other discussion....

Upper body is very easy to see results for women because the typical female (estrogen driven) pattern of fat depositing will put greater concentrations of fat cells in the hips / thighs / ass / waist and not in the upper body. I can shread up real nice on top and still have jiggly thighs. That just means you have to continue applying the diet & training - its just going to take longer to see the results because there is a greater concentration of fat cells there. And steroids are not the quicky answer.

OK, you've listed a whole shitload of cardio and some training as well. Primarily need to look at your current diet because diet will produce 80% of your results. The other thing here is that you are doign a shitload of cardio. Consider what marathon runners look like - "skinny fat" - sure they are lean, but they are stringy and tend to have a bodyfat measure that would surprise you - not necessarily because they are fat but rather that they will have a lack of muscle as running especially can be catabolic (eats muscle too).

So my first question is, does your diet support the activities you are demanding from your body? For ex, if you aren't eating enough protein, chances are that your running is helping some w/ the bodyfat but if its eating your muscle as well, even a smaller amount of bodyfat will still look fatter than if you had more muscle. My guess is that the two things you are demanding from your body are conflicting - muscle building & muscle burning (running) and also would ask if you can list what your diet currently is in detail (i.e. meal 1 (8 am) : 1/2 c oatmeal, etc...) -- with the ultimate questoin being total cals, quality of food and macronutrient ratios: % and grams of proteins / fats /carbs. (You can put your day's meal plan into a food counts program like www.fitday.com to get all this info).
 
IF I read another post where a female is being urged to go with ANY ANABOLICS, much less Primo, at her boyfriends suggestion - I think my head will explode.


Start with your training........all out on 15 reps per set is not the way to build any lbm. You also mentioned your calves being large......if thats an issue now - you most likely will not like the result of gaining LBM as it will be distributed on your entire body - calves included
 
The Shadow said:
IF I read another post where a female is being urged to go with ANY ANABOLICS, much less Primo, at her boyfriends suggestion - I think my head will explode.

Oh God yes.
 
julesW said:
I'm not huge, 5'4" 132 lbs and comfortable with my size I just want ripped thighs and a tight butt. My legs are nice, but the but is not flabby, just extremely soft for as hard as I work it out.

In addition to needing diet specifics, what is your BF%?
 
if you have glutes/hips/thighs fat loss issues, reccomend yohimburn ES.


if your musculature in those areas is lacking then you should look at your form, because those exercises should be developing glutes and thighs quite well
 
This is a sample of my diet on fitday.com

Total: 1839
Fat: 51 463 26%
Sat: 22 194 11%
Poly: 6 57 3%
Mono: 19 171 10%
Carbs: 164 597 34%
Fiber: 15 0 0%
Protein: 179 716 40%

My body fat is estimated to be at 22%. I'm in the army and that is according to their program that is not entirely accurate. I measure myself once a week and do not rely solely on the scale for progress. My waist is 28 inches, hips are 34 7/8 inches, and my thigh is 21 7/8 inches. As for my calves its not an issue (as long as I don't lift my calves), I would not mind my calves if I had the thighs and buttocks to match. As for form that is one thing I focus on no matter what exercises I'm doing. My ex and I still go to the gym together occassionally and I ask for his imput on my form. I don't care what weight I lift as long as I can do them properly. He said that I should just lift more weight and do less reps. I'm just not sure, maybe it is my diet.

30 minutes of cardio and abs

8:30 am - .5 cup oatmeal 5 egg whites
10:00 am - yogurt and granola
12:00 pm - tuna and salad
2:00 pm - muscle milk

4:00 pm - 1 hour weight training
7:00 pm - whole wheat pasta with meat sauce
10:00 pm - protein

Thanks for the input thus far.
 
julesW said:
8:30 am - .5 cup oatmeal 5 egg whites
10:00 am - yogurt and granola
12:00 pm - tuna and salad
2:00 pm - muscle milk

4:00 pm - 1 hour weight training
7:00 pm - whole wheat pasta with meat sauce
10:00 pm - protein
Off to a good strat just need some tweaking.
8:30 .5 cup oatmeal 5 egg whites
10:00 1/4 c yogurt and 1/2 cottage cheese (or another protein source)
12:00 can tuna and 2-3 cups mixed greens (lemon juice and vinger dressing)
2:00 1/2 c whole wheat pasta with meat sauce (extra lean beef in the sauce approx 3-4 oz)
4:00 pm - 1 hour weight training
5:00 muscle milk or any other protein shake
7:00 tuna and 2-3 cups mixed greens (lemon juice and vinger dressing)
10:00 protein shake and tbsp of anpb or some almonds need a fat source is the bottom line.

What is your height and weight you have yet to list it.
 
julesW said:
This is a sample of my diet on fitday.com

Total: 1839
Fat: 51 463 26%
Sat: 22 194 11%
Poly: 6 57 3%
Mono: 19 171 10%
Carbs: 164 597 34%
Fiber: 15 0 0%
Protein: 179 716 40%

My body fat is estimated to be at 22%. I'm in the army and that is according to their program that is not entirely accurate. I measure myself once a week and do not rely solely on the scale for progress. My waist is 28 inches, hips are 34 7/8 inches, and my thigh is 21 7/8 inches. As for my calves its not an issue (as long as I don't lift my calves), I would not mind my calves if I had the thighs and buttocks to match. As for form that is one thing I focus on no matter what exercises I'm doing. My ex and I still go to the gym together occassionally and I ask for his imput on my form. I don't care what weight I lift as long as I can do them properly. He said that I should just lift more weight and do less reps. I'm just not sure, maybe it is my diet.

30 minutes of cardio and abs

8:30 am - .5 cup oatmeal 5 egg whites
10:00 am - yogurt and granola
12:00 pm - tuna and salad
2:00 pm - muscle milk

4:00 pm - 1 hour weight training
7:00 pm - whole wheat pasta with meat sauce
10:00 pm - protein

Thanks for the input thus far.


1800 cals at 132 is a bit much imo....especially if you are looking to cut/solidify
 
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