Lennox Lewis?biteme said:He has fought 6 heavyweight champions, losing to 2 by decision. The guy has never been knocked down or hurt. Baddest heavyweight to never win a title, but he might yet.
Nobledude said:Lennox Lewis?
Anyway, i see him as the best heveyweight of the last 20 years....
you are an idiot..check his record putz....fuking moronTC2 said:WTF?? are you huffing paint thinner as you type??
Lennox Lewis does nothing but jab the WHOLE fight. sure he wins but I dont consider someone who just throws jabs with his long reach as the best anything.
Nobledude said:you are an idiot..check his record putz....fuking moron
for being disrespectful and inaccurate in your statments..TC2 said:LOL...you bombed me for that???
fist yourself.
Nobledude said:for being disrespectful and inaccurate in your statments..
and I bomb the shit out of fags like you...TC2 said:You're a little bit retarded aren't you??
thats cool I work with retarded people.
Nobledude said:and I bomb the shit out of fags like you...
coming back for more, putz? got enough ammo for you sorry ass...TC2 said:That's cool..hey next time you have "arts and crafts" training will you make me a macaroni necklace?? I know how you "special" people love your arts and crafts.
okthanksbye
Nobledude said:coming back for more, putz? got enough ammo for you sorry ass...
Lennox is gonna drop a few more jabs on your ass...
dude, get your facts straight before you post those idiotic statements...Lennox crushed every fuking contender in the 90's...TC2 said:LOL...dont worry..I wont touch your ears and no I haven't seen your baseball.
LMAO...dude do you realize how ridiculous you are for defending a guy that couldnt possibly care whether you live or die??
and you can red me into oblivion, because this is just a website, not real life for me.
Lennox fact - Lennox and Rocky Marciano are the only two heavyweight boxers to have retired having beaten everybody they stepped into the ring against. Lennox needed some second chances, but that's an interesting fact.Nobledude said:dude, get your facts straight before you post those idiotic statements...Lennox crushed every fuking contender in the 90's...
Anyway, more jabs to come...you are my new toy..
Exactly, Lennox beat the shit out of everyone....when he retired there was no one else to be spanked.....the guy kicked ass...reno240 said:Lennox fact - Lennox and Rocky Marciano are the only two heavyweight boxers to have retired having beaten everybody they stepped into the ring against. Lennox needed some second chances, but that's an interesting fact.
David Tua is one dimensional. He has a really big left hook. His biggest problem was that he didn't move his head well, especially has he aged. Klitchko wouldn't even need to take any chances to beat him. He would jab from a distance and as soon as Tua got in range of his big left, Klitchko could hold him. That fight would be very one sided.
He should have NEVER lost to Rahman though. He was sleep walking through that fight before he got clocked.Nobledude said:Exactly, Lennox beat the shit out of everyone....when he retired there was no one else to be spanked.....the guy kicked ass...
maybe idiots like TC2 should brush up on their boxing knowledge...
Andrew Golota - that guy had issues.Turd Ferguson said:Who was the guy that kept hitting guys in the nuts?
Yeah I remember Larry Merchant or one of the HBO announcers saying after it happened for like the 5th fight " its obivious that there is something very wrong here"reno240 said:Andrew Golota - that guy had issues.
Which one? Gatti did that a few times. Very fun fighter to watch.Turd Ferguson said:Yeah I remember Larry Merchant or one of the HBO announcers saying after it happened for like the 5th fight " its obivious that there is something very wrong here"
How about when the riot started after the fight on HBO! Remember that. My all time favorite was Aurtio Gotti's fight where he was all busted up and still came back and won.
they had a few fights, cant remember the other guys name, but i think an irish dude. The first was the best though. I remember being off my chair screaming several times. Freaking awesome.reno240 said:Which one? Gatti did that a few times. Very fun fighter to watch.
Mickey Ward - oh yeah - I think the 9th round of that fight was the best round of boxing I have ever seen.Turd Ferguson said:they had a few fights, cant remember the other guys name, but i think an irish dude. The first was the best though. I remember being off my chair screaming several times. Freaking awesome.
Gatti lost the first fight though.Turd Ferguson said:they had a few fights, cant remember the other guys name, but i think an irish dude. The first was the best though. I remember being off my chair screaming several times. Freaking awesome.
the fight with Rahman he had it in the bag....one lucky shot and he was knocked out..damn..reno240 said:He should have NEVER lost to Rahman though. He was sleep walking through that fight before he got clocked.
Interesting question - who wins with both fighters in their respective primes?
Lennox Lewis vs. Larry Holmes
Yeah - but Ali's brain was scrambled eggs by then. Holmes was an amazing fighter. But Lennox hit harder (I think) and was just physically bigger. Lennox's suspect chin is why I give the fight to Holmes.Nobledude said:the fight with Rahman he had it in the bag....one lucky shot and he was knocked out..damn..
Lewis vs. Homes is real tough one...Holmes ranks as one of the best boxers in the last 100 years...Wasnt he one of the two boxers who KO, Muhamed Ali?
i think the best fights ever were the ones bween Frazer and Ali...the thrilla in Manila....reno240 said:Yeah - but Ali's brain was scrambled eggs by then. Holmes was an amazing fighter. But Lennox hit harder (I think) and was just physically bigger. Lennox's suspect chin is why I give the fight to Holmes.
reno240 said:Mickey Ward - oh yeah - I think the 9th round of that fight was the best round of boxing I have ever seen.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdrnPqKigjw
Well - IMO - with everyone in their primes - I think Ali was the fastest, flat out best Heavyweight fighter ever.Nobledude said:one of the biggest surprise was Ali's defeat against a novice with ony 7 pro fights under his belt, Leon Spinks..
How about Rocky Marciano-Ali?
Do you remember the fight between Foreman and ALI....Foreman had him for 8 rounds I believe when exausted and tired of Ali's rope a dope strategy ....he got KO and he failed to make the count..No one would give Ali a chance against Foreman but his strategy worked out perfectly..reno240 said:Well - IMO - with everyone in their primes - I think Ali was the fastest, flat out best Heavyweight fighter ever.
Oh yeah it did - but it will come back around. I just can't stand the amount of titles. It seems like every freaking boxer has a title now.Nobledude said:It is sad that in the last years after Lennox retirement the heavyweight division went to shit..
Name top three best heavy weights at all time...reno240 said:Oh yeah it did - but it will come back around. I just can't stand the amount of titles. It seems like every freaking boxer has a title now.
Oh yeah - he just out-thought him in that one. He wasn't even at his best then, he was starting to age.Nobledude said:Do you remember the fight between Foreman and ALI....Foreman had him for 8 rounds I believe when exausted and tired of Ali's rope a dope strategy ....he got KO and he failed to make the count..No one would give Ali a chance against Foreman but his strategy worked out perfectly..
Ali's plan was to enrage Foreman ---which he did succesfully--and absorb his best blows in order to exhaust him mentally and physically. By the 8th round Foreman was exhausted and ALi took advantage of it..
Speaking of Foreman his comeback at 45 to regain the heavyweight championship was amazing...
OOOO - Tough one... Let me see.Nobledude said:Name top three best heavy weights at all time...
Ali, Holmes, Marciano....IMO
too bad he didnt know when to retire...Don King was always pushing him to more fights...his last fight was at 39 ..he already had a hole in the membrane of his brain but Don King let him fight again...sad...reno240 said:Oh yeah - he just out-thought him in that one. He wasn't even at his best then, he was starting to age.
and his heart. the fight against ken norton was an incredible hvywt fight for the punches thrown and landed.reno240 said:Oh by the way - to answer my own question - I give it to Holmes on account of his chin.
i would've liked to have seen him fight tyson when tyson was in his prime. lennox would've won but it would have been a helluva better fight. and somewhere we gotta throw evander holyfield in this mix. for a small hvywt , what a warrior he was.Nobledude said:Lennox Lewis?
Anyway, i see him as the best heveyweight of the last 20 years....
For his own good I hope Holyfield calls it quits soon.ole farte' said:i would've liked to have seen him fight tyson when tyson was in his prime. lennox would've won but it would have been a helluva better fight. and somewhere we gotta throw evander holyfield in this mix. for a small hvywt , what a warrior he was.
Holyfield may pay the price later on as he doesnt know when to retire...see ALI...ole farte' said:i would've liked to have seen him fight tyson when tyson was in his prime. lennox would've won but it would have been a helluva better fight. and somewhere we gotta throw evander holyfield in this mix. for a small hvywt , what a warrior he was.
When Tyson was the big bad champ that nobody wanted to fight. Lennox used to go to his fights - sit in the front - and call him out all night. Tyson wouldn't fight him then.ole farte' said:i would've liked to have seen him fight tyson when tyson was in his prime. lennox would've won but it would have been a helluva better fight. and somewhere we gotta throw evander holyfield in this mix. for a small hvywt , what a warrior he was.
agreed. i don't know what it's going to take though to get him to stop. right now he's got more heart than brains and skill left.reno240 said:For his own good I hope Holyfield calls it quits soon.
Yep - AND - I am really hazy on the details, but I think he got busted for a steroid not too long ago. Or he was under suspicion.ole farte' said:agreed. i don't know what it's going to take though to get him to stop. right now he's got more heart than brains and skill left.
yeah i don't see how it can't help but to affect him as he gets older, the man took some huge punches from some super sized hvywts.Nobledude said:Holyfield may pay the price later on as he doesnt know when to retire...see ALI...
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he did have some great traps and delts though didn't hereno240 said:Yep - AND - I am really hazy on the details, but I think he got busted for a steroid not too long ago. Or he was under suspicion.
yah, that fight will happen. and the oscar-floyd fight, i actually am giving oscar a good chance to win that. not saying it'll be an exciting fight because floyds not gonna want to get hurt so he'll move a lot. dela hoya can win it as the aggressor, taking the fight to him. i hope.Nobledude said:I wanna see a fight between Klitchko and Maskaev...
Yep - it's live in the middle of the afternoon tomorrow and then replayed again before BAD.Nobledude said:
the odds are 50/50 between Maskaev and Klitscko...ole farte' said:yah, that fight will happen. and the oscar-floyd fight, i actually am giving oscar a good chance to win that. not saying it'll be an exciting fight because floyds not gonna want to get hurt so he'll move a lot. dela hoya can win it as the aggressor, taking the fight to him. i hope.
I don't think the Maskaev/Klitscko fight is 50/50. I think Klitscko wins easily.Nobledude said:the odds are 50/50 between Maskaev and Klitscko...
there is another up and coming boxer...a beast from Ukraine I believe...his name is Valuev....
check out www.fightnews. com , they might not fight. oh well,shit i gotta do my squats.....augghhh.reno240 said:Yep - it's live in the middle of the afternoon tomorrow and then replayed again before BAD.
I agree with your assessment of the Mayweather fight. Add in the fact that Oscar is the naturally bigger of the two men, and Mayweather may have his hands full. BUT EVERYTIME - I think Mayweather has a challenge on his hands, he kicks the shit out of the guy.ole farte' said:yah, that fight will happen. and the oscar-floyd fight, i actually am giving oscar a good chance to win that. not saying it'll be an exciting fight because floyds not gonna want to get hurt so he'll move a lot. dela hoya can win it as the aggressor, taking the fight to him. i hope.
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