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Blut Wumps Another 25

nelmsjer said:
Congrats on your squat PR and for feeling better. How different does this feel, compared to non-juice?
That's a really good question. The simple answer is that I don't feel different at all.

On the other hand, I feel more mellow, day to day, than I have in years and the fatigue from a workout is much reduced. Until this Monday, when I left the gym feeling on empty, I'd been hitting PR after PR and going back to the gym ready to do it again, all the time thinking that there was nothing definite to say that the gear was making any difference.

I've not had any day when I've gone into the gym feeling that I could lift the bar, the squat rack and anyone in it but I'm steadily adding weight to the bar, session after session and finding it no harder than the previous PR.
 
blut wump said:
I've not had any day when I've gone into the gym feeling that I could lift the bar, the squat rack and anyone in it but I'm steadily adding weight to the bar, session after session and finding it no harder than the previous PR.
My sneaking suspicion is that the heavier esters such as what you're using have a much more gradual effect. I bet you'll still have 'the day' where you feel invincible, the you'll ride the wave for a few weeks. I only have experience with short esters so I was expecting a 'holy shit' day by now from ya :D
 
Well, I'm now five weeks in from first injection which puts me at about the half-way point when I add in the time for esters to dissipate.

I was just looking at my week3 performance against my week5. Squat went up maybe 8Kg and bench up 5Kg in those two weeks for a 5-rep set. If I can add double that again then I'll be hitting 150 for squat and 135 for bench each for five reps before I go into an intensity phase. I'm very likely to hit my long-term ambition of three plates on bench for a triple and pretty likely to be hitting four plates on squat for a single or double belt-free by the time it's all over. If I hit those then I'll have no cause for any complaint provided I remain injury-free.

I'm just taking it one workout at a time but I can see why people launch their cycles with orals or faster-acting esters. As they say, it's a marathon rather than a sprint. Maybe I'll do it again around September-ish but slightly different.
 
Sunday Weigh-In - Back due to popular demand

126.8Kg (279.0lbs)


21st Feb 123.4Kg - 271.5lbs
26th Feb 124.4Kg - 273.7lbs
05th Mar 125.0Kg - 275.0lbs
12th Mar 126.8Kg - 279.0lbs
(19th Mar 125.2Kg - 275.4lbs)
27th Mar 126.8Kg - 279.0lbs (today)

I forgot to post it up last week and ate before weighing yesterday so this is a day late. I had the same weight two weeks ago but put that one down to water and then lost four or five pounds overnight. My weight has been climbing, bit by bit, all of this past week.
 
Guinness5.0 said:
My sneaking suspicion is that the heavier esters such as what you're using have a much more gradual effect. I bet you'll still have 'the day' where you feel invincible, the you'll ride the wave for a few weeks. I only have experience with short esters so I was expecting a 'holy shit' day by now from ya :D
aren't you on prop BW?
 
BD Test Cyp 200. I'm taking 1.2ml E4D which is 60mg per day average.
I've now gone five full weeks and a couple of days.
 
Week 6 Day 1

I took today as a reconditioning day. I moved back to 5x5 workouts rather than 3x3 and stepped back to around week3 weights. It was a fairly straightforward workout but my energy levels were down and the weights felt heavier than I expected. No signs of any Superman syndrome yet. It could be that I should have taken another pure deload day.

The squats felt kind of heavy but I was keeping my rests between sets down to a couple of minutes and I paused each rep at the bottom.

The 100Kg bench felt heavy and I thought I was going to be in trouble after I'd done the 110. The 120 seemed easier than either of those, though. However, not so easy that I would have had confidence of getting 125 which I got last week.

Nothing to report on the rows except that I've just looked at week3 and I should have been aiming for 110 as my top set rather than 105.

All in all a fairly lackluster workout. I'm going to write this one off to biorhythms and a poor sleep and hope that I have more to show on Wednesday.


Weight in Kilos.
ATF Squat
20x10, 30x10, 60x5, 90x4, 110x3, 125x5x5
Bench
20x10N, 40x10S, 60x6W, 80x5W, 90x5W, 110x5W, 110x5W, 120x5W, 90x9 for 2 sets NN
BB Row
20x10, 60x5, 75x5, 85x5, 95x5, 105x5
Needsize Abs
5x5
 
I think your progress looks really good. I have used Enanthate in the past at low doses (200-400mg/week) and I never had a holy shit moment per se (except in the mirror looking at my traps, lol), but I just made gauranteed progress over time, and like you said, each PR felt easy, like I'd done it before. I didn't wake up one day 20lbs heavier, but it was a consistent climb and I gained 20lbs within the first 6 weeks, and probably a grand total of 25ish. My body dramatically recomps itself too. Last I used anything was August of 2003 and my bodyweight went from 250 to about 272ish and my bodyfat hadn't been better since I was 220, lol.
Sex drive was through the roof, so was performance. I always felt like I was in a great mood too and very clear headed. The first 2 weeks, I shot once a week, but I'd crash, with 2 shots a week, I felt like the King of the World straight through.

Just my experience, I think yours will be similar because like me, you'd been training and progressing consistently for a time before the cycle, and the gains aren't as dramatic as someone coming back from a layoff or someone who never made progress in the gym anyway due to crap training and lack of eating.

I hope it gives you some reassurance.....just expect progress to be eye popping when you look back over 2-3 months and not so much from workout to workout. And enjoy every last second of the body recomp and having the upper back and shoulder girdle of a comic book character, because unfortunately, that goes back to the before state a couple weeks after your last shot.
 
BiggT said:
I think your progress looks really good. I have used Enanthate in the past at low doses (200-400mg/week) and I never had a holy shit moment per se (except in the mirror looking at my traps, lol), but I just made gauranteed progress over time, and like you said, each PR felt easy, like I'd done it before. I didn't wake up one day 20lbs heavier, but it was a consistent climb and I gained 20lbs within the first 6 weeks, and probably a grand total of 25ish. My body dramatically recomps itself too. Last I used anything was August of 2003 and my bodyweight went from 250 to about 272ish and my bodyfat hadn't been better since I was 220, lol.
Sex drive was through the roof, so was performance. I always felt like I was in a great mood too and very clear headed. The first 2 weeks, I shot once a week, but I'd crash, with 2 shots a week, I felt like the King of the World straight through.

Just my experience, I think yours will be similar because like me, you'd been training and progressing consistently for a time before the cycle, and the gains aren't as dramatic as someone coming back from a layoff or someone who never made progress in the gym anyway due to crap training and lack of eating.

I hope it gives you some reassurance.....just expect progress to be eye popping when you look back over 2-3 months and not so much from workout to workout. And enjoy every last second of the body recomp and having the upper back and shoulder girdle of a comic book character, because unfortunately, that goes back to the before state a couple weeks after your last shot.
how tall are you biggt?
and yes, test e and sus both give consistent gains from one workout to another... occasionally, when i have bumped the weight up too much, i've gone back not feeling satisfied. and yes, you'll see your standards drop as far as women are concerned. you'll feel like doing anything under 40 with boobs. ;)
 
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