no no no...not the truth....."What do the right wingers think it is?"...they coined the phrase.I just think its funny how they think "queer eye" and "will and grace" is the downfall of the planet ..but war ..death and Destruction is a necessary evil...(anywho back on topic for me.)EnderJE said:To be seen as being normal? I dunno, just taking a guess with that one.
4everhung said:I've been drinkin' so I'll be short
the short-sighted gay community is focusing on the wrong issue
"marriage" is a title only for them with little difference in the eyes of the law save for one very fucking important fact I've yet to see mentioned by any pro-gay marriage poster or the infamous ass-plorer himself
DEATHTAX and the abilty to transfer assets to one's spouse
correct and change these 2 differences betw actaul marriage and civil unions(as they are seen and interpreted for the most part by the majority of states) and the only difference that exists is the title defining the union
except for divorce
hell as a guy I'd much rather get a "civil" union with a girl than go through another marriage
fuck that noise
you fags don't know what kind of shit you're stirring up

I'm not a homophobe in the leastIwouldSlamU said:REMBER BEING GAY IS A CHOICE........thats another one. i would say allmost never a choice
when i was 10 i though girls vaginas were directly under thier belly buttons.turns out i was incorrect.4everhung said:I'm not a homophobe in the least
hell I enjoy going to gay clubs occassionally
but it is much more difficult to "learn" to take a cock up the ass than it is for a women to take a cock in her pussy
and I know from speaking to women about butt love
and I honestly can't see any difference from an anatomatical angle in the male and female anus
this is not to say that it can't be enjoyable
but anal sex is "learned",plain and simple
even oral sex is learned
straight vaginal male-female sex is almost born known
4everhung said:when I was young I though their butt crack went all the way around
"what if he had to pee?"
I was tough to raise,for different reasons
the issue I have with this though is that genetic dispositions are "passed along"biteme said:My guess is that it's usually genetic. I mean what normal guy would want to have a dick in his ass? I can't even comprehend it. So I'm not against gays, it's just a genetic defect is my guess. I've had friends that are gay, but I must admit, I often wonder if they would like to stick their dick in my ass. LOL
I don't really think many of us are "obsessed" with homosexuality. With the internet it's easier to chat about issues and get info. Myself I've gotten a lot of insight into their viewpoints from boards such as this. In the real world I virtually never even discuss "gay" matters or tell a gay joke. Hell gay jokes went "out" about 20 years ago. It's something kids do,"you're gay"GREGORY said:I never really saw the reason why people are so obsessed with gayness. It onestly never mattered to me. As a true Christian i don't judge anyone and have the same friendly face to every person i meet. It just does not matter whether they're gay or anything else, it's a human being. Now whether it's genetic is debatable, i'm sure some guys are gay due to some event that took place at some time in their life, while others might be genetically programmed like that, I mean it's not like we have a shortage of people who suffer thinking they were born the wrong sex, so why not be born gay? In the end all any of us ever want is to be accepted and happy.
true datThe Greatest said:Gays= the new clowns, handicapped, old people, we accept them as long as they are on tv making us laugh.
The truth is most of America is still stuck in the past. As we saw in this election people like being ordered around, they like someone controlling their lives. And the GOP/Christian Reich clearly deems gays as a threat matrix to clean USA living. The sheep then flock as told.
kinda pathetic
4everhung said:I don't really think many of us are "obsessed" with homosexuality. With the internet it's easier to chat about issues and get info. Myself I've gotten a lot of insight into their viewpoints from boards such as this. In the real world I virtually never even discuss "gay" matters or tell a gay joke. Hell gay jokes went "out" about 20 years ago. It's something kids do,"you're gay"
4everhung said:true dat
can't stomp on the blacks anymore
wonder if we're gradually moving from the gays to the muslims
I agree with you a 100% on thisGREGORY said:Yes you are obsessed, well maybe not you specifically but the populace overall. They or you just don't realize it and don't discuss it in public but do behind closed doors in your home and in the safety and annoniminity sp? of the internet. It's like some black comedians said, that now adays a nigger is only a nigger when he leaves the room. It's the same with gays they're not gays or homos or fags until they leave the room or your safe and annonymous.
Think about it and don't take offense.
curling said:I think their agenda is make a homosexuality to be percieved as normal behavior so that more people think being gay is ok. Then they hope to recruit some more straight people to their way of life since they can't reproduce their kind.
Robert Jan said:You are dumb
curling said:And you are stupid fag.
LMAO... You are a total tard.curling said:I think their agenda is make a homosexuality to be percieved as normal behavior so that more people think being gay is ok. Then they hope to recruit some more straight people to their way of life since they can't reproduce their kind.
curling said:I think their agenda is make a homosexuality to be percieved as normal behavior so that more people think being gay is ok. Then they hope to recruit some more straight people to their way of life since they can't reproduce their kind.
WODIN said:The right wing agenda is to be able to stone gay people to death.
curling said:I think their agenda is make a homosexuality to be percieved as normal behavior so that more people think being gay is ok. Then they hope to recruit some more straight people to their way of life since they can't reproduce their kind.
poor curling gets owned enoughAAP said:Why would we want to recruit straight people? Hell, straight people supply us with enough new members to our ranks. I never heard of a gay couple having a homosexual baby. It's always you hetero people that give birth to gay babies. Ya'll fucked.
Y_Lifter said:Crucifixion would be more appropriate..
GREGORY said:I never really saw the reason why people are so obsessed with gayness. It onestly never mattered to me. As a true Christian i don't judge anyone and have the same friendly face to every person i meet. It just does not matter whether they're gay or anything else, it's a human being. Now whether it's genetic is debatable, i'm sure some guys are gay due to some event that took place at some time in their life, while others might be genetically programmed like that, I mean it's not like we have a shortage of people who suffer thinking they were born the wrong sex, so why not be born gay? In the end all any of us ever want is to be accepted and happy.
they have pretty much got the priesthood infiltratedgamorrah said:to slowly infiltrate the school systems, boy scouts and priesthood. Conon Obrien actaully has a copy of the gay agenda manual.
gamorrah said:I dont hate gays at all, I could really care less. I do get tired of the continually having the "gay lifestyle/culture" jammed down my throat |0| , by the liberal media and Hollywood. Quite frankly, Hollywood would have you believe that homosexuals are the norm, thats far from true, they are natural, because they exist in nature, it is not normal as it contradicts biological necessity.
I dont have to approve of watching gays or straights openly exploit their sexuality in public. I think people get sick of continually having gay rights thrown in their face, no one gives a shit if your gay, just shut the f*7k up about it and live your life like everyone else. Its like when Ellen, the very funny comedian came out of the closet on her show, after that every joke was about being gay. No one really cares, gays should quit thinking they do, there no more interesting or important then anyone else. I just think they are extra sensitive due to all that extra estrogen.
gamorrah said:it is not normal as it contradicts biological necessity.
PERFECTWORLD said:no flame intended...if this is true than i guess the womans g-spot should be left untouched because it serves no "biological necessity" and can ususally only be stimulated "manualy"...................right?
gamorrah said:Im pretty sure stimulating the g-spot manually increases the lubrication of the vagina,
PERFECTWORLD said:no actually its is scientificly proven it serves no purpose other than pleasure ....not for reproduction or lubrication.....and it isnt stimulated by the penis.
(this argument is how im securing my future 3-way btw...."god wants us to be happy baby see? why would he make it if he didnt?...lol)![]()
Robert Jan said:regardless of how irrelevant it is to the gay issue... it is in fact very possible to hit G with the penis
Robert Jan said:in fact very possible to hit G with the penis
this is why americans are so fat ...they think that the box of hohos will make them happy for a minute ...but it doesnt...eating is fuel...not pleasure imo....you are right...we are off topic....gamorrah said:How is pleasure not a purpose? Eating is not pleasurable? it serves no purpose?
PERFECTWORLD said:irrelevant?...in my church they told me "sex for procreation only"...this IS how the right thinks....not that they practice what they preach ..i was raised very republican and VERY christian...anyway my point is if we can have sex for pleasure....than it shouldnt matter if its with a dood ...if thats what you want...thats all.
lol....I get it.Your very clever ..incorrect but funny. My enite point is the right fucking sucks they make life WAY to difficult ..with silly ideas about "failing biologically" ect...did god tell you that?) and make the world a horrible place and should be shot on site ...thats all sunshinegamorrah said:I hope your very happy, honestly.
WODIN said:The right wing agenda is to be able to stone gay people to death.
bor if you can stimulate the g-spot well,they will gushPERFECTWORLD said:no actually its is scientificly proven it serves no purpose other than pleasure ....not for reproduction or lubrication.....and it isnt stimulated by the penis.
(this argument is how im securing my future 3-way btw...."god wants us to be happy baby see? why would he make it if he didnt?...lol)![]()
if you do,and it doesn't have to be severelyPERFECTWORLD said:if you have a Severely curved penI (which i would have a doctor look at btw)... i guess it MIGHT be possible.
Bukkake ....4everhung said:if you do,and it doesn't have to be severely
just adjust the direction of your thrusts
anyhow getting sidetracked
about this sex for procreation only
perhaps,but why is 98% of sperm designed and tasked with killing other sperm?

DonnieRobertsNY said:However, consider this. It's fact that people who are married with children are less costly on society by far! People who raise children have greater incomes, and are cost the health care system less. This is why the government legally promotes the ideas of marraige through incentives. Do gay couples exihibit behavior that is not as healthy as hetero couple with children? something to think about
PERFECTWORLD said:Sorry WRONG. For many YEARS it has been well known and studied by economists that gay people have MORE disposable income. Why else would there be such a surge and rush for advertisers to target the gay market? Gay cruise ships, gay ads in mainstream magazines, etc etc. Kids cost MONEY. Is it not more expensive for a payroll deduction for a FAMILIY deduction? More kids, more health care expense, school clothes, no need for me to go on and on. Same could be said for a hetero man/woman couple that NEVER have kids.
4everhung said:nobody read my thread about the key point
correct the differences between the treatment of the disposal of one's estate between cicvil unions and "married" couples
you'll are arguing semantics
give the "civil unions" the same treatment as spouses in a "married" situation upon death
(i.e. allow the un-taxed transfer of assets of the deceased to the partner,or if I'm not up to date,at least commensurate with the distribution that "married" couples enjoy.)
PERFECTWORLD said:there is a gay guy at my work...his biggest problem is his sister is a weasle who stole tons of money from misc. relatives after they died...all he he wants is his partner to have some rights if he was on his deathbed to visit and keep the vultures at bay...i have no problem with that..in fact it makes me sad.
But civil unions are NOT recognized nationwide,,,,,, only in the individual state where the paperwork was filed. THAT is the one big problem with civil unions4everhung said:nobody read my thread about the key point
correct the differences between the treatment of the disposal of one's estate between cicvil unions and "married" couples
you'll are arguing semantics
give the "civil unions" the same treatment as spouses in a "married" situation upon death
(i.e. allow the un-taxed transfer of assets of the deceased to the partner,or if I'm not up to date,at least commensurate with the distribution that "married" couples enjoy.)
yeah it sucks they have been together for 12 years too....i feel so bad for gay people...i dont know why "christians" would wish such heartache on others.DonnieRobertsNY said:That kinda crap is the reason that if I ever get a "partner" "significant other" "husband" whatever they wanna call it,,,,,,,,,i'm moving to Vermont and staying there!!! besides i can see it from my window!!
so you see that is the issue to be correctedPERFECTWORLD said:there is a gay guy at my work...his biggest problem is his sister is a weasle who stole tons of money from misc. relatives after they died...all he he wants is his partner to have some rights if he was on his deathbed to visit and keep the vultures at bay...i have no problem with that..in fact it makes me sad.
PERFECTWORLD said:yeah it sucks they have been together for 12 years too....i feel so bad for gay people...i dont know why "christians" would wish such heartache on others.
4everhung said:so you see that is the issue to be corrected
just leave the word "marriage" out of the equation
and pass a bill giving civil unions the same legal posture as "married" couples upon death of the "spouse"
yeah man...cool with me ...i dont know if thats cool with them...for me its the injustice you know.i hate to see anyone suffer....they could dress up like elvis and get married skydiving for all i care.4everhung said:so you see that is the issue to be corrected
just leave the word "marriage" out of the equation
and pass a bill giving civil unions the same legal posture as "married" couples upon death of the "spouse"
quit being picky donnieDonnieRobertsNY said:but what if that partner is in a hospital while both are on vacation three states away from the home state where the civil union was performed?
the ONLY out would be for civil unions to be federally recognized state by state as marriage is,,,,,,,,,,, and technically even states do NOT have to recognize OTHER states Hetero marriages,,,,,,,,, it's just always been done
PERFECTWORLD said:yeah it sucks they have been together for 12 years too....i feel so bad for gay people...i dont know why "christians" would wish such heartache on others.
DonnieRobertsNY said:but what if that partner is in a hospital while both are on vacation three states away from the home state where the civil union was performed?
the ONLY out would be for civil unions to be federally recognized state by state as marriage is,,,,,,,,,,, and technically even states do NOT have to recognize OTHER states Hetero marriages,,,,,,,,, it's just always been done
GREGORY said:Well i'm a "Christian" or a Catholic to be exact and don't wish this on to others. Stop stereotyping and your views will broaden.

4everhung said:I'm not a homophobe in the least
hell I enjoy going to gay clubs occassionally
but it is much more difficult to "learn" to take a cock up the ass than it is for a women to take a cock in her pussy
and I know from speaking to women about butt love
and I honestly can't see any difference from an anatomatical angle in the male and female anus
this is not to say that it can't be enjoyable
but anal sex is "learned",plain and simple
even oral sex is learned
straight vaginal male-female sex is almost born known
PERFECTWORLD said:lol....I get it.Your very clever ..incorrect but funny. My enite point is the right fucking sucks they make life WAY to difficult ..with silly ideas about "failing biologically" ect...did god tell you that?) and make the world a horrible place and should be shot on site ...thats all sunshine![]()
PERFECTWORLD said:11 RED states had gay Marriage ban on the ballot...this is a well known Right wing ideology ...if you voted for bush you vote to make just about everyone on the planet sad and unhappy...abortions are up...crime is up...poverty is up..children left behind..pain and suffering way the fuck up....yay 4 more years!!! good job guys !!!Yippee
PERFECTWORLD said:11 RED states had gay Marriage ban on the ballot...this is a well known Right wing ideology
Marriage is a tradition created by these religious right wingers, civil unions are a better idea.
why do you infer that all conservatives beleive in the moral/religous stance of the far right. Im a conservative because I beleive in these things.
less government (both sides are making it bigger)
military supremacy (critical to people who actually believe in reality)
capitalism ( socialism ruins economies and allows elites all the power ) (in capitalism man is free and bound only by his desire and abilities )
fiscal accountability (Bush has been horrible)
...if you voted for bush you vote to make just about everyone on the planet sad and unhappy
He made the majority of US citizens happy! check the vote. I find it funny how liberals only like to tolerate democracy when it goes their way. Who gives a crap what the world thinks, friggin grow up and read history, we created democracy and freedom, Ill spill my blood before I will answer to anyone but MY ELECTED OFFICIAL, why do the left wingers continually want to give up our power to some sort of world court, a court that is corrupt beyond anything the US has experienced, Charaq and Kofi may go to prison over the food for oil scam, and they should all be treated as war criminals for the horrors they have allowed worldwide.
...abortions are up (Im pro choice, dumb asses should use birth control)
...crime is up (wrong! check the FBI crime reports)
here is one clip http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/10/25/fbi.violent.crime/
...poverty is up
( could not find any info for 2004, anyways thats a complicated issue, far beyond Bush's control, anyways most economist say that he has handled the economy well, he just tends to say yes to everybill and has spent us into oblivion!)
..children left behind..pain and suffering way the fuck up
what the fu*%^&, put down the bong and turn off the Moore movies.
Provide some actual info please! Im middle class with 2 kids. My wife an I both work hard and are very happy our kids are great, same with my friends. Why do you have such an opinion? Is your opinion by chance what you see and read from the media, or have actually seen this pain and suffering going on everywhere?
....yay 4 more years!!! good job guys !!!Yippee
cheer up and try to see the good things in life. There are always good things in both sides, America is great because of this compromise between extremes.
PERFECTWORLD said:11 RED states had gay Marriage ban on the ballot...this is a well known Right wing ideology ...if you voted for bush you vote to make just about everyone on the planet sad and unhappy...abortions are up...crime is up...poverty is up..children left behind..pain and suffering way the fuck up....yay 4 more years!!! good job guys !!!Yippee
I agree. Both sides aren't really looking out for the "common man".gamorrah said:blah blah blah[/B]
i may just be...my friend... i may just be....4everhung said:
gamorrah said:How am I incorrect? and about what?
I agree, the right does suck in many ways. And it's sad the way they have treated gays.
Like I said, I dont beleive in god, and failing biological has nothing to do with ethics or morals, it's just biological fact. No emotional response or meaning need be tied to it. Sin is an idea of man, it has nothing to do with nature. I think there is nothing wrong with homosexuality, they just dont have a right to redefine marriage, a tradition that was never meant for them.
I hope all people are happy, why would I be insincere about that statement?
Because you receive hate and predjudice from being gay, don't paint me as a bigot or other people. Sounds like your tolerance may be a little low. Life is as hard as you make it. If your sure everyone is out to get gays you will see it everywhere, If you look to the good side of people you will see that they really don't care as long as your a good person and dont force them to believe as you do.
You become what you think!
that will be $120 please
good...btwgamorrah said:so far. This is my last response to your riduculous charges without any substance or wit.
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