Adding inches to arms

[WilleZurMacht]

Well first off, let's clear something up: you're more calling me ignorant and close-minded, not arrogant or pretentious. Use the correct term next time.

Secondly, you were doing fine until you tried to pull the "intelligent" quote from someone. The first part isn't so bad, except people can be successful, and their methods can work. Fine. My gripe was the time it takes, and trying to optimize gains in a shorter period, thus reaching their levels earlier than they had. This is why I question old methods and look towards new ones. I'm not saying others don't work. I know they do. It's been proven with results. It's a matter of how well they work. How quick they work. So I can see where you thinking this part of the prescribed workout for "people like me" was intelligent.

As for part two, that should have been left out, as it did nothing constructive at all, but since you wanna play like that: Fuck off, cunt. Maybe it isn't I who needs the "multiple heavy sets of SHUT THE FUCK UP!". Bitch.

If you could read, you would see precisely why I called you arrogant. Supposing you agree that having too high an opinion of oneself, in this case yourself as a scientist, is arrogance. You have a very shallow interpretation of "closemindedness" if you can not see its essential connection to arrogance. Secondly, your response in no way justifies your stupid statements about muscle growth. Finally you misunderstand my final sentance. That advice adds much and would be good for you or almost any other beginner in general, b/c you are too inexperienced to have much chance of saying anything valuable. The profanity, was not attributed to you, but rather added emphasis to the point.

 

[Tom Treutlein]

Firstly, the "stupid statements about muscle growth" were not my own. Second, I don't see how you can call them stupid when they are showing a scientific background, and you're just spitting a bunch of bullshit.

Just because one doesn't have the experience in the gym does not mean they can't say anything valuable. You might not agree with some of the stuff behind HST, but let's say WSB. It works. Everyone knows that. So if I got a friend into training, had him read everything on Westside, taught him all he needed to know (or allowed him to teach himself) and learn how to set up routines and when the volume would be deemed too high or low for a beginning or advanced lifter respectively, you're telling me he would have nothing valuable to say? That, to me, sounds like ignorance.

I can see how "closemindedness" has a connection to arrogance. I feel it has a greater one to ignorance, though. That's not my main issue, anyway. Regardless of what you want to call me (the main word you seem to toss at me here is arrogant) - I don't care. You don't really have any solid reason for saying I'm arrogant.

According to you, I'm stubborn and/or closed minded because I refuse to believe anything other than HST is optimal for growth, which, in turn, makes me arrogant. Right. Okay. I see no real correlation there, but maybe it's just me.

I have a high opinion of myself? Not really. I'm pretty insecure, to be honest. One of the reasons I want to train optimally to get bigger and stronger as quickly as possible. You don't even know me, so don't act like you do.

Prick.

 

[wnt2bBeast]

alright you each got your last licks in..no more rebuttles from anyone unless it has something to do with training arms..OK???

Lets get on with life!!!!!

 

[ghettostudmuffin]

Ok Tom, how long have you been training? What is your total training experience time?

What did you start out weighing and what were your measurements then? How much did you lift in the basic exercises?

What are they now? How much do you lift now?

I ask these questions to get a better idea of why you believe HST is the best training for growth, other than you read and believe it is.

How many other methods have you actually tried to make an honest, experienced and unbiased comparison to HST?

And if you haven't at least tried a few other training methods for at least a few months at a time, how can you know HST is better?

The logical answer is you can't. The problem is that you assume that due to some scientific studies that HST is the BEST way. Bro, I'll say it one last time. There is no BEST way for anyone. Everyone is different.

Also, is this so-called scientific HST info peer reviewed?