Adding inches to arms

[wnt2bBeast]

Squats don't make your arms grow. Train for specificity. The hormonal release is nominal, contrary to popular belief.

im not gonna fight with you..you do what works for you ill stick to what works for me

 

[ghettostudmuffin]

That's a pretty bold statement tom. Just how BIG are you and how much can you squat and how long have you been consistently lifting as well as total lifting experience?

I KNOW for a fact that heavy squats make you bigger and stronger "overall", period.

Of course tricep exercises for direct arm work, but if you aren't at least squatting and preferably doing squats and deads then you might as well not even do extra tricep work.

 

[Tom Treutlein]

"Not only that, but squats do not cause whole body growth. They only have the potential to cause growth in those muscle groups directly involved in the squatting movement. However, because squats involve at least half of the body, you can increase overall bodyweight as a result of so much of the body’s musculature being stimulated to grow. Despite Kraemer’s claims that the miniscule spikes in Test and GH as a result of squatting without resting too much in-between sets is responsible for muscle growth, it isn’t entirely true. Otherwise, if these minute spikes in Test and GH had any significant physiological effect, squatting would put hair on your chest."

One's size and strength has nothing to do with their knowledge of training.

 

[ghettostudmuffin]

It may not entirely Tom, but if you can't back up what you say with a solid level of size and strength then what gives? If one has a great knowledge of training then that person should have results to prove it. Seems reasonable to me.

You can have all the book knowledge in the world, but without some real time and experience with the iron it equates to very little imo.

A guy may know everything their is to know about lifting weights and getting bigger and stronger, but if his results don't speak for themselves then you gotta wonder just how much this person really knows, not what they think they know.

 

[anthrax]

"Not only that, but squats do not cause whole body growth. They only have the potential to cause growth in those muscle groups directly involved in the squatting movement. However, because squats involve at least half of the body, you can increase overall bodyweight as a result of so much of the body’s musculature being stimulated to grow. Despite Kraemer’s claims that the miniscule spikes in Test and GH as a result of squatting without resting too much in-between sets is responsible for muscle growth, it isn’t entirely true. Otherwise, if these minute spikes in Test and GH had any significant physiological effect, squatting would put hair on your chest."

One's size and strength has nothing to do with their knowledge of training.

Interesting though contrary to popular belief

where does that come from ?

 

[Tom Treutlein]

The HST FAQ, the topic titled "exercise selection and related topics" or something of that nature.

I trust Bryan and his sources. He's been accurate with everything I've seen thus far.

Ghetto, how can one have the knowledge but not the results to back it up? I learn fast. Muscles don't grow as fast as one can learn. I picked up a lot of stuff in a short time. Not to mention I'm busy with random shit all the time so I usually have a lackluster effort in my dieting (and to some extents, training), so I fall short of achieving my goals.

 

[wnt2bBeast]

fuck hst fuck science..not everyone grows hair from test and gets acne..that is such a bullshit statement..if you want to disprove this myth with science that is fine..then scite some scientific info not some bullshit like i got gyno from doing squats because of all the test release!!!!

Please read this article by Tate..
http://www.elitefitnesssystems.com/documents/your_program_sucks.htm

 

[ghettostudmuffin]

Well Tom, you sound like a smart guy and I'm sure you've got more knowledge of training than most joe's in the gym, but telling me you are lackluster on your diet and training doesn't help your cause, ya know?

I only bring this up because you seem to be stuck on HST, as if it's the best thing since toast(I hate that sliced bread one). Your amount of training experience doesn't seem to be long enough to make the distiction that there is no best program for any 1 person, at any given time for that matter.

I'm not doggin you man, I used to be just like you back in the day. I'm just pointing out that you might think about that rather then deciding HST is the "only" way or best way because it appeals to you and your sense of logic. Alot of people think the same way about HIT, when those with experience no it isn't true.

Good luck.

 

[Tom Treutlein]

Well the thing is, HIT doesn't have any physiological principles that tell us why muscle grows. I've yet to see anything decipher the reason for muscle growth, so HST appeals in that light.

Wnt2b...fuck science? No man. Once it's been tested and proven, science is golden. It helps us make strides forward. It's pretty ignorant to say "fuck science". I'll be the science guinea pig, you don't have to. You can say fuck it. I don't want to. I like trying new things, especially those that have a lot of logic behind them. I don't like being irrational and illogical...like a girl.

 

[psychedout]

To be honest, I don't believe the science behind HST, but hey, thats just me.