Adding inches to arms

[wnt2bBeast]

Well the thing is, HIT doesn't have any physiological principles that tell us why muscle grows. I've yet to see anything decipher the reason for muscle growth, so HST appeals in that light.

Wnt2b...fuck science? No man. Once it's been tested and proven, science is golden. It helps us make strides forward. It's pretty ignorant to say "fuck science". I'll be the science guinea pig, you don't have to. You can say fuck it. I don't want to. I like trying new things, especially those that have a lot of logic behind them. I don't like being irrational and illogical...like a girl.

you obviously did not read the article that i provided..the quote you provided is so unscientific its not funny...

MY SCIENCE LAB IS CALLED A GYM..I HAVE RUN MANY EXPERIMENTS UNDER THE BAR..I HAVE LOADED LOTS OF WEIGHT ON IT AND I PUT IT ON MY BACK!!! I HAVE DONE SOME EXPERIMENTS WHERE I DID NOT DO WHAT WE CALL SQUATS AND YES I GREW BUT I HAVE FOUND OUT THROUGH EXPERIMENTATION THAT WHEN I SQUAT THINGS SEEM TO GROW EASIER..THE HST LAB MAY THINK THIS IS NOT TRUE BUT THEN AGAIN THEY LIVE IN THEIR OWN WORLD AND THINK EVERYONE ELSE WHO RUNS THESE EXPERIMENTS IS BENEATH THEM..I ALSO HAVE A FRIEND ON ANOTHER BOARD WHO IS A COMPETETIVE POWERLIFTER WITH 19 INCH ARMS (NO THOSE ARENT HUGE) BUT THE GUY ALMOST NEVER DOES CURLS OR ANY DIRECT BI WORK..AGAIN PLEASE REFER TO THE ARTICLE I PROVIDED..IM TIRED OF THIS SAME OLD LAME ARGUMENTS..PEOPLE HAVE PROVEN THAT HST SCIENCE IS NOT THE ONLY SCIENCE OUT THERE..WAKE UP GET A CLUE..NOTHING AGAISNT HST BUT NOT EVERYTHING CAN BE EXPLAINED FROM THE HST FAQ..ACCORDING TO THAT WSB HAS NO MERIT? DC HAS NO MERIT?5X5 HAS NO MERIT?WALKINGBEAST SHOULD BE IN A COMA BY NOW BECAUSE HE DOES TOO MUCH VOLUME!!!! WAKE UP HST IS ONE WAY TO CUT THE CAKE..AGAIN PLEASE REFER TO THE ARTICLE I GAVE YOU..TO REIETERATE I DONT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH SCIENCE BUT WAKE UP THERES MORE TO IT THAN HST..

now i have absolutely no problem if you disagree with me but i am tired of cetain people who come on here and pick what thet respond to and dont offer any advice..i simply stated make sure your squatting..i also posted up my tri rotuine and bi's etc..i also asked him to post his routine so that everyone could take a look at it and tweak....no you come along and turn this thread completely upside down!!!!

Other people have done the same with the advice given by B-Fold...no one is saying you cant disagree..but what you told me with your lpost was im full of shit and because hst says so i dont get better growth from squatting..Are you hiding in your own insecurities? do you not squat for some reason? are your legs too big? do you have an injury that prevents you from doing them? again please read the article that i gave you..

I am here to try to offer advice based upon what has and is working for me..it may not be based on hst..i hope this is ok???

 

[Tom Treutlein]

I read the article - so what? His opinion is that people who don't have the "gym experience" shouldn't be talking, basically. That the program used by that person sucks. Well, I've seen it work for tons of people for size in the past. I'll say again - specificity. Go on thinking what you wish. Don't be such a hot-head, by the by. Lose the fucking caps.

Oh, my legs are ahead of the rest of my body. I do squat, but it's getting to the point where upper-body size comes first and I'm thinking of cutting down my lower-body volume so I can remain in good proportion. I want another inch on my quads, roughly. At the same time, I want a few inches more on my upper arms. So, I do squat, no injury (yet, luckily), and I'm not hiding any insecurities. I think I've said it before - I'm by no means huge. Still only seventeen anyway, but I'm not trying to make excuses. I look at people years ahead of me and tell myself I should be that big now. Makes me push myself more. Problem is, I always have things going on in life that hinder my training.

Oh, and don't say anything about quitting training if I don't have the ability to put in 100%. Training isn't my life. I'm not getting paid for it, so I don't need to dedicate everything to it.

 

[it stars sAddam]

Training isn't my life. I'm not getting paid for it, so I don't need to dedicate everything to it.

sorry to hear that

 

[wnt2bBeast]

My entire point was to get off you HST high horse..You cannot look at everything through the eyes of hst..I am not saying hst doesnt work..i am sure it does..but at 17 you have not seen a ton of guys..at 17 your gonna balk at an article written by Tate?? sounds like internet muscles to me!!!

I didnt criticize your training or whatever issues you have that prevent you from being consistent..

Now youre igoring facts for the sake of some science..Ive seen what works with me as well as other poeple..but you wanna stick to science...

BTW i didnt have further info but in last months edition of MD there was some info on scientific data run by NSCA which disputed some of teh premises of HST..that is the science..i dont have a further a link so i didnt make a thread..but since your so closed minded and have all the answers at 17???

Correct me if im wrong but you dont even work out at a gym so where are these tons of people that you have observed? I have trained on and off for 15 years..many of those younger years were spent through trial and error..i have trained with professional athletes as well..

again my goal was to try to help people on here no spit HST at them..go post on the hst board where you can chat with like minded people and you can all agree how great you guys are!!! I base my posts on what has worked and what i learn from other people..

so why dont we do this when someone poses a question and i post my advice instead of you deciding that you need to set us straight why dont you just offer your own advice rather than picking on my posts or anyone elses for that matter? then let the person looking for help decide what he wants to do and how he wants to proceed..Im just tired of having to go through this every couple of weeks..HST (while it is a viable training option) does not and cannot answwer every question why you ask? because we are all built differently so you cannot possibly have a canned routine that "absolutely" works for everyone..if you knew anything about science you would know science deals with statistical probabilities not absolutes!!!

 

[jwwpua]

im not gonna fight with you..you do what works for you ill stick to what works for me

Changed your mind?

 

[wnt2bBeast]

Changed your mind?

lol..yes after that comical quote about test release from squatting..i couldnt resist!!!

 

[JohnRobHolmes]

this thread has gotten a little away from the subject, but i think i can pull it back in. from my personal experience, squats have helped me with my overall power. even in stuff like pullups and bench, it has helped. how? i think it has more to do with recovery than anything else. the body will adapt to whatever you throw at it. squats force all kinds of rebuilding and recovery on the cns, circulatory, and muscles. therefore- my body is better equiped to handle recovery from adding squats to my workout. better recovery = more workouts = bigger arms faster. thats my science.

 

[Carmen]

I like trying new things, especially those that have a lot of logic behind them. I don't like being irrational and illogical...like a girl.

Tom...
a. "like a girl"? i happen to be one and i'm far from irrational or illogical. in fact, both of those traits i happen to excell at.
b. sorry, but squats make you stronger and bigger. Most benchers i know, squat or deadlift if able ONLY because it increases their overall strength. AT the very least, and simplistic form, squatting helps your core strength. stronger core will help you in all your lifts, including arms.

 

[JohnRobHolmes]

the NAUGHTY and VELUPTUOUS sister of the NKC just laid it down.

love the avatar btw. looks so succulent and firm.....

 

[Tom Treutlein]

Sugar, I apologize. I was joking around with a friend of mine as I wrote that post and kind've just let that slip in there - I don't support the idea that women are more illogical or irrational than men - just a greater percentage I've known have been more so, so I tease people about that. Do I actually believe it to hold true all the time? Not at all.

Anyway - wnt2b, I never said I was great or anything, so stop making me out to seem arrogant, 'cause I think I'm far enough from it.

I want to stick to science because I feel secure in it. I like empirical data that comes to solid conclusions as to why something works. Maybe HST will have some of its principles disproven in the future, which will show the science wasn't perfect. Taking the gamble that it is in fact perfect, I stick with it, because once science has been proven...you can't disprove it. Maybe it's not 100%, but after the results I and others have seen on it, it's hard for me to say that it isn't the best method around for size alone.