6 OXO Blood Test Results!

[Nelson Montana]

Some of you may remember that a few months back I did an estrogen level check with my monthly blood test and found that by using chrysin and calcium D glucarate my e level went from a slightly high 37.6 to a respectable 27.4. This month I decided to use 6 OXO to see how it fared. The results are in.

My estrodiol was 26.

Now keep in mind there are many variables in play here and the numbers can go up and down a few points day to day. However, taken at face value, two basic conclusions can be drawn from these results.

6OXO will indeed work to lower estrogen.

And Two: It will lower estrogen approximately as well as Chrysin and calcium d glucarate.

Keep in mind also, the level of effect may vary depending on ones e elevation. Will it lower MORE e if estrogen is extremely high? Hard to say. Will it lower a "normal" estrogen level? Maybe.

Another interesting point to this test is the absurd claim that 6 OXO will raise testosterne 265%!!! Where do these companies come up with these preposterous claims?!? For one thing, the whole concept of a lowered estrogen level raising testosterone is completely misconstrued. (But that's a topic for another time). Anyway, my T level was right around where it's always been. Last month it was 920. (I'm on 100 mgs/wk HRT) This month it was 910. (In all fairness the test was taken 6 days after my shot and last month it was taken 5 days after). If 6OXO did what it claims, my T would be over 2000!!! Nonsense.

So there you have it, in black and white -- and red. On one hand I can say that ergopharm finally came out with a product that is effective. On the other hand, you can buy Chrysin and Calcium D Glucarate from BAC for less than half the price of 6 OXO , or if you don't want to cap and mix your own capsules, you can get "Post-Cycle" from Protein Factory and get Maca,Epimedium, Cndium, Milk Thistle, r-ala and Lecithin as well all in one shot.

I'd be willing to give 6OXO another try, but I'd like to see some more legit tests done. And they'll simply have to do better with the price. At any rate, I think it's good news to know that natural substances can help to control estrogen without nasty side effects.

 

[Themachine01]

At any rate, I think it's good news to know that natural substances can help to control estrogen without nasty side effects.

When you say nasty side effects, please explain yourself in regards to say nolva for example.

 

[poantrex]

I never understood the need some people have for using OTC supplements that don't work nearly as well as their prescription counterparts - and as an added bonus OTC products usually cost more.

 

[lartinos]

Interesting stuff Nelson. You're my favorite guinea pig.

 

[Nelson Montana]

I never understood the need some people have for using OTC supplements that don't work nearly as well as their prescription counterparts - and as an added bonus OTC products usually cost more.

Besides the legality issue, some people would rather not resort to drugs if they don't have to simply for the fact that OTC supps tend to be milder and more easily assesable.

Side effects of nolva? Varies. For some, it has the same dick deadening effects of Clomid. In general; lower IGF-1. Elevated SHBG. Elevated LDL. "Backlash" of estrogen once therapy is stopped.

 

[psychedout]

Interesting.... Keep the tests comming. I look forward to reading them.

 

[Themachine01]

Besides the legality issue, some people would rather not resort to drugs if they don't have to simply for the fact that OTC supps tend to be milder and more easily assesable.

Side effects of nolva? Varies. For some, it has the same dick deadening effects of Clomid. In general; lower IGF-1. Elevated SHBG. Elevated LDL. "Backlash" of estrogen once therapy is stopped.

i often see you compare "OTC supps" to "drugs", but im curious as to what you consider the difference? "OTC supps can be just as harmful as what you call "drugs", if not more, in some cases. YES, they are more assesable, thats why they are called OTC.

What im getting at is that you are making an assumption that these "OTC supps" are safer and have less sides, but have a similar effect in regards to lowering estrogen. Your blood may have proved that it lowered your estrogen level, BUT, it did not prove anything about the side effects that may occur from 6OXO, there is no proof what so ever that the sides might not be worse than the other "drug" options.

If you are strictly trying to find someone that works that is legal, then that is fine, but I disagree when you say it is safer, or causes less sides.

 

[Laser0001]

Nelson, if you droped your dosage to 50 mg per week do you think you would have elevated estrogen levels? 910 on t is above
normal in a person over 35 if I remember right? Do you plan on HRT for life? Do you do HGH HRT as well?

 

[Nelson Montana]

Laser: Yes, HRT is for life. 100 mgs a week is the very low end so it just goes to show, that you don't need much. e may be lower with a lower dose but the ratio would be hgher.

Conversion to e increases as we age. Avena Sativa helps. I don't use HGH.

Machine: Agreed. Legality and safety aren't necessarily compatable. But when dealing with estrogen, so many of the drugs are harsh and can lower e too much. A natural supp tends to keep things under control without throwing the level too far out of whack. I've experienced horrible sides from Clomid but no sides from Chrysin. Interestingly, I got similar sides to Clomid when using DIM -- maybe because it too is a mild estrogen and that just doesn't work well with me.

 

[Themachine01]

Nelson, you make a good point, and your experiences prove that everyone reacts different, I have yet to experience any sides from clomid what so ever.