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5-HTP vs. L-Tryptophan
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dr0832
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5-HTP did nothing to make me fall asleep and help my insomnia. In fact I actually felt stimulated like the feeling I get from ephedrine or adderral. What it did do was make me feel like I got a full 10 hours of restful REM sleep when I only actually got 4 hours. This was when i took 200 mg. The side effect was that it gave me horrible constipation and my ass started to bleed FOR REAL. I would not fuck with that shit.
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Mr.X
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dr0832 said:
For me it makes me relax and gets the drowsy state together, but It's allways different for different ppl.
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junk
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OK.. Today was one of the most horrible days I've had for quite a while. Even though I took 300mg 5-HTP on totally empty stomach when I woke up, about 3-4 hours later the carbs cravings were uncontrollable, I felt like I was competely posessed. I estimate I ate like 4000 bad cals.
Note that the 5-HTP worked great for me for 2-3 weeks, really felt no cravings up until lately where they aggravated daily (along with more depression).
So making a lot of research on the net, I found out, the culprit maybe lake of L-Tyrosine which is vital for the production of other brain neuros. I've seen research that says 5-HTP effect diminish after a few weeks, but taking L-Tyrosine along with it brings back it's effect. Maybe even adding phenylalanine ?
The worest part is that you have to take them seperately, so that they would not compete with other aminos, and both should be taken on really empty stomach. So that means I have to have a lot of hours during the day without food in order to achieve it's full effect.
Note that the 5-HTP worked great for me for 2-3 weeks, really felt no cravings up until lately where they aggravated daily (along with more depression).
So making a lot of research on the net, I found out, the culprit maybe lake of L-Tyrosine which is vital for the production of other brain neuros. I've seen research that says 5-HTP effect diminish after a few weeks, but taking L-Tyrosine along with it brings back it's effect. Maybe even adding phenylalanine ?
The worest part is that you have to take them seperately, so that they would not compete with other aminos, and both should be taken on really empty stomach. So that means I have to have a lot of hours during the day without food in order to achieve it's full effect.
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Mr.X
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junk said:
I usually suggest against taking too much 5HTP, epecially early in the morning in the am. L-tyrosine does help but it doesn't really bring back any potency of 5HTP, or to make that clear not to any really high degree.
Have you tried taking AF-NYC with some Pseven and taking a break from the 5HTP? For, the 5HTP doesn't always work the same for everyone.
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junk
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Oh yeah. When I take NYC or T-REX I get so depressed I can kill myself (never happened to me with any other supplement ever). I think it's an interraction between the 5-HTP and the Yohimbine or maybe the Dostinex I'm taking aong interracts badly with Yohimbine. I'm heading to the store soon to try L-Tyrosine at 6 grams a day, might help. As I said, 5-HTP really worked excellent up till very recently.
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Mr.X
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junk said:
Maybe if you get off all the products for a week or so, it might come out as a positive when you get on. I know Dostinex and don't think that's the big problem.
It might be a chemical imbalance in your brain (not implying you're metal, I'm saying it might be something w/ depression). I suggest going to see your doctor and seeing if you might have a bigger problem then we can solve here on Elite.
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junk
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Thanks bro, the problem I have is most diffenetely has to deal with a brain chemical imbalance (i.e. Serotonin). Depression and/or binging can be either due to Chemical Imbalance (that's mostly the case with us, bodybuilders) or it may be due to psychological reasons (not my case).
Chemical related depression is when you actually don't have any good reason to be depressed. In my case, my economical and family statuses are excellent. Moreso, I had many periods in life when things weren't nearly as good as now, yet I was less depressed.
That's the sign of Chemical Imbalance related depression (which is my case). In that case, talks with not help with the situation (although elite talks do see to work to some extent.. lol
)The best advices (THAT WORKED!) were always the ones I got from guys good guys like you, Fonz and other knowledgable people.
This morning, I took 200mg of 5-HTP on empty stomach first thing in the morning before cardio. 3 hours after my breakfast protein bar I took 3grams of L-Tyrosine along with B-Complex & C (as suggested). I'll take another dose of 5-HTP later today (another 200mg not more) and at night another 2grams of L-Tyrosine. If within 2-3 days I don't feel these insane cravings, it means this shit is working...
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Mr.X
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junk said:
Thanks bro, the problem I have is most diffenetely has to deal with a brain chemical imbalance (i.e. Serotonin). Depression and/or binging can be either due to Chemical Imbalance (that's mostly the case with us, bodybuilders) or it may be due to psychological reasons (not my case).
Chemical related depression is when you actually don't have any good reason to be depressed. In my case, my economical and family statuses are excellent. Moreso, I had many periods in life when things weren't nearly as good as now, yet I was less depressed.
That's the sign of Chemical Imbalance related depression (which is my case). In that case, talks with not help with the situation (although elite talks do see to work to some extent.. lol
The best advices (THAT WORKED!) were always the ones I got from guys good guys like you, Fonz and other knowledgable people.
This morning, I took 200mg of 5-HTP on empty stomach first thing in the morning before cardio. 3 hours after my breakfast protein bar I took 3grams of L-Tyrosine along with B-Complex & C (as suggested). I'll take another dose of 5-HTP later today (another 200mg not more) and at night another 2grams of L-Tyrosine. If within 2-3 days I don't feel these insane cravings, it means this shit is working...
My question to you is what cycle are you on? and are you in post-cycle therapy?
Mr.X
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