3,000+ calories.....

[Lifterforlife]

I always thought it was bad to eat more than every 2 hours minium....like in the am, I'll have 3/4 cup oats and a cup of egg whites, some skim and coffee and a scoop of whey....I'm hungry 1hr later......then I eat 6oz beef, stir fry, and a 5oz yam with a huge salad and go train.....I have some yogurt and whey and a banana pw, a tuna pack with green beans and a salad 1 hr later and I'm stuffed.....is tht 2,000 cals?


I call bull on your diets.....let me see what you ate today and what is your bf%/stats?

Not sure if you are asking me or not, I was simply trying to give a way to get more calories in. I personally am at maintenance right now. I do right at 2400 calories per day.

I am personally about 12-13% bf right now, pretty normal for me.

When I want more, I simply up my portion sizes, add protein drinks, but eat basically the same foods. Add a snack in between my normal meal times. My wife for instance makes protein cookies for me, with walnuts, etc.

 

[sublime35]

I always thought it was bad to eat more than every 2 hours minium....like in the am, I'll have 3/4 cup oats and a cup of egg whites, some skim and coffee and a scoop of whey....I'm hungry 1hr later......then I eat 6oz beef, stir fry, and a 5oz yam with a huge salad and go train.....I have some yogurt and whey and a banana pw, a tuna pack with green beans and a salad 1 hr later and I'm stuffed.....is tht 2,000 cals?


I call bull on your diets.....let me see what you ate today and what is your bf%/stats?

I'm 5ft 9 155lbs. about 12%bf. I used to be pretty big, about 200lbs and 2 in. shorter. had a shitty metabolism, never ate, had little muscle then. well i lost a lot of weight. (mucho muscle and fat) from an ED. Well now I'm back up to 155 and about 3800cals. a day, trying to bulk.

Eggwhites 120 30 0 0
flax 40 0 4.5 0
Oats 465 15 9 81

workout- drink milk during.
milk 85 8 0 13

Oats 465 15 9 81
Whey 140 34 0 1
milk 85 8 0 13

g. beef 160 22 8 0
pasta 514 18.6 1.3 104
veggies 20 1 0 4
oil 60 0 6.75 0
t.sauce 55 2 0 12

chicken 100 24 0.5 0
red b. and rice 480 13.5 2.75 104
veggies 20 1 0 4
oil 80 0 9 0

Chicken 100 24 0.5 0
Oats 395 12.5 8.5 67
Olive Oil 20 0 2.25 0

Cottage Cheese 255 42 4.5 12
Natty PB 200 8 16 6

3859 278.6 82.55 502
1114.4 742.95 2008 3865.35
0.288779477 0.19252397 0.520342058

thats about 3860 cals 278.6g prot., 82.55g fat, 502 g carbs.

 

[kylewoods]

I'm 5ft 9 155lbs. about 12%bf. I used to be pretty big, about 200lbs and 2 in. shorter. had a shitty metabolism, never ate, had little muscle then. well i lost a lot of weight. (mucho muscle and fat) from an ED. Well now I'm back up to 155 and about 3800cals. a day, trying to bulk.

Eggwhites 120 30 0 0
flax 40 0 4.5 0
Oats 465 15 9 81

workout- drink milk during.
milk 85 8 0 13

Oats 465 15 9 81
Whey 140 34 0 1
milk 85 8 0 13

g. beef 160 22 8 0
pasta 514 18.6 1.3 104
veggies 20 1 0 4
oil 60 0 6.75 0
t.sauce 55 2 0 12

chicken 100 24 0.5 0
red b. and rice 480 13.5 2.75 104
veggies 20 1 0 4
oil 80 0 9 0

Chicken 100 24 0.5 0
Oats 395 12.5 8.5 67
Olive Oil 20 0 2.25 0

Cottage Cheese 255 42 4.5 12
Natty PB 200 8 16 6

3859 278.6 82.55 502
1114.4 742.95 2008 3865.35
0.288779477 0.19252397 0.520342058

thats about 3860 cals 278.6g prot., 82.55g fat, 502 g carbs.

why do you drink milk during ur workout?
and ur preworkout meal got milk in it 2, witch digests quite slow, not good preworkout imo but i guess everyone is different.

i see you have flax with your breakfast witch again will slow down ur protein. u have been fasting for 8 or so hours remember.

but i have heard of guys that take fat in the morning without any problems. good luck with ur bulk!

 

[harbinator]

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Damn, never thought it would be so friggn hard. I did the calcualtions to a tee and it came to about 3,900 to bulk clean. Have a very hard time believing that since my cardio is now just stationary bike for 40 mins 3x a week and training is 5x a week....job is in an office, so i sit all day. Plus, I'm about 6'2, 175 and 8-9%. So, I was going to start at 3,000 but it's rough. This week especially, since I've been off on vaction. Training daily, but only getting in a few meals. For example, I rode this am, had breakfast, and lunch at noon. I'll go train at 2pm, have a shake and then a meal.......then maybe some wine and have a night shake, but the cals have to be on the low end....tips or tricks? If you feel yourself falling short, is it kosher to add in the excess carbs late night or bad idea?

I think its just a body type thing, I have no problem eating like a PIG I can eat 4000 calories of clean food daily with 0 problem, but its very hard for me to go below 3000. Hardgainers on the other hand find it very hard to eat 3000 clean calories a day. Guess it all goes back to ecto/endomorph. Ive had cheat days where I can eat 2000 calories in 1 meal and do it 4-5 times a day.

 

[JKurz1]

but you guys also get over 12%........I have a meantal block, where I can't do it...this is what my goal is...

40 minutes on bike

6am
Meal 1- 1 cup oats, 1+ cup egg whites, 1/2 cup skim and a 1/2 grapfruit

9am
Meal 2-5oz 96% lean beef, slice of cheese, 1/2 cup broccoli, 1 tsp olive oil

1pm
Meal 3- 4oz yam, 4oz Chicken breast, mixed stir fry, large salad, 8-10 peanuts

500pm TRAIN

615-630
Meal 4-pwo- 1 scoop whey, 1/2 cup of yogurt 1/2 cup skim, cereal or rice cakes

730
Meal 5 ppwo- myoplex, or 4oz beef, 1/2 cup rice or oats, salad

Before bed
Meal 6- cottage cheese, 1 scoop casien whey, almonds and peanuts

 

[sublime35]

why do you drink milk during ur workout?
and ur preworkout meal got milk in it 2, witch digests quite slow, not good preworkout imo but i guess everyone is different.

i see you have flax with your breakfast witch again will slow down ur protein. u have been fasting for 8 or so hours remember.

but i have heard of guys that take fat in the morning without any problems. good luck with ur bulk!

well the fat is only 1 tsp.(4.5g) so it's not that much. I have the milk during the workout because milk, although slow digesting, does illicit a large insulin response. Insulin helps suppress cortisol. Plus even w/ the fat and the milk, I drink about 2 cups of coffee within and hour ofworking out and another 1 or 2 during, so the caffeine is helping to speed things up. It's something new I'm trying, so we'll see how it goes.

 

[sublime35]

but you guys also get over 12%........I have a meantal block, where I can't do it...this is what my goal is...

40 minutes on bike

6am
Meal 1- 1 cup oats, 1+ cup egg whites, 1/2 cup skim and a 1/2 grapfruit

9am
Meal 2-5oz 96% lean beef, slice of cheese, 1/2 cup broccoli, 1 tsp olive oil

1pm
Meal 3- 4oz yam, 4oz Chicken breast, mixed stir fry, large salad, 8-10 peanuts

500pm TRAIN

615-630
Meal 4-pwo- 1 scoop whey, 1/2 cup of yogurt 1/2 cup skim, cereal or rice cakes

730
Meal 5 ppwo- myoplex, or 4oz beef, 1/2 cup rice or oats, salad

Before bed
Meal 6- cottage cheese, 1 scoop casien whey, almonds and peanuts

Your diet looks good man, solid. You really need to stop worrying though. You know how to cut, so if you bulk up and put on some fat (which is inevitable) you know how to get it off. Plus you're running a cycle, your fat gain will probably be less because of it. I know I've given you a hard time before about having body image issuses, but if you want to gain some muscle you're gunna have to get over it.

My suggestion is that you don't measure your body fat this whole time. Maybe that will help you get over it. yes your abs will prolly go away a litle bit and you're gunna gain some water weight, but that's how it goes.

 

[JKurz1]

aka.....avoid the mirror?? I need to incorpor. cheeat weekends....

 

[sublime35]

aka.....avoid the mirror?? I need to incorpor. cheeat weekends....

what ever you've got to do. I know when I was first recovering from anorexia, I would gain a little water weight, see it on the scale and in the mirror and freak out. Then i'd be sheepish about eating, and over estimate cals. to reach my daily totals w/ out eating as much.

 

[JKurz1]

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