1st Proper Cycle What You Think?

[northernknight]

Double post/Not double post=Repost

Your flat benching 40 pound dumbells

^^^ This!! LMAO!!
What's with the DB's? They have their place for sure, but why here? What's wrong with using Barbell for bench? C'mon man for fucks sake...

As far as your cycle goes, I still think it's going to be a huge train wreck. I would advice to drop the Tren, and you could end up with decent or even good cycle, but I know you won't listen. It's Tren-E, so because of the long ester you won't feel yet, what you are feeling now comes slightly from Test and mostly from placebo...
I have no idea how you came up with first cycle like this.( no popping some (fake?) Dbols doesn't count as cycle! ) Your suppliers idea maybe? I can't think of anything worse for first cycle then Tren-E or Tren-H. Once you hit the real side effects of Tren, and if they come unbearable it will take long time before you can get away from them bc. the Enathate ester. Biggest downside of Tren-E is that it can sometimes be like Enathate esterfied madness. Which is the reasoning behind that you should always run Tren-Ace when first time running Tren, just to get to know the drug. Acetate ester clears out of your body very quickly, in my own experience about 24 hours after cessation of use.

This post was not really written for the OP here, since he already demostrated inability to listen, but rather to others who are new to AAS. And people interested in running Tren for first time in general.

 

[fixerman]

Drop the tren now!!!

 

[fixerman]

Do you have an antiestrogen?!!!?

 

[SULLY86]

Re: Double post/Not double post=Repost

As far as your cycle goes, I still think it's going to be a huge train wreck. I would advice to drop the Tren, and you could end up with decent or even good cycle, but I know you won't listen. It's Tren-E, so because of the long ester you won't feel yet, what you are feeling now comes slightly from Test and mostly from placebo...
I have no idea how you came up with first cycle like this.( no popping some (fake?) Dbols doesn't count as cycle! ) Your suppliers idea maybe? I can't think of anything worse for first cycle then Tren-E or Tren-H. Once you hit the real side effects of Tren, and if they come unbearable it will take long time before you can get away from them bc. the Enathate ester. Biggest downside of Tren-E is that it can sometimes be like Enathate esterfied madness. Which is the reasoning behind that you should always run Tren-Ace when first time running Tren, just to get to know the drug. Acetate ester clears out of your body very quickly, in my own experience about 24 hours after cessation of use.

This post was not really written for the OP here, since he already demostrated inability to listen, but rather to others who are new to AAS. And people interested in running Tren for first time in general.

Is it too late to drop the Tren E after 2 weeks? and continue with the test cyp or should i just continue my cycle? (IVE FINNALLY WOKE UP AND USED MY BRAIN AND DONT SHY AWAY FROM ADMITTING IT)(yes i should have done more and yet more research but now that i have i know your all right, just hope its not too late for a decent cycle)

 

[MattJS]

Stop taking tren! You're in waaaay over your head.... Did you even use any caber?

 

[SULLY86]

I will but what test cyp should i run for another 10 weeks? What mg per week would be best considering my bad start of two weeks tren 300mg two weeks test 300mg.

 

[northernknight]

Is it too late to drop the Tren E after 2 weeks? and continue with the test cyp or should i just continue my cycle? (IVE FINNALLY WOKE UP AND USED MY BRAIN AND DONT SHY AWAY FROM ADMITTING IT)(yes i should have done more and yet more research but now that i have i know your all right, just hope its not too late for a decent cycle)

Bro, there's no shame in realising you're making a mistake, and coming to your senses, it's called living and learning. Especially fact that you're admitting it shows great deal of maturity. You are young and I'm not so old yet that I wouldn't remember what it was like, I used to be pretty impulsive, and stubborn at your age myself, lol!
And Btw. Made a huge amount of mistakes, some of which consequences I'm still paying for, and have to live with. So I I'm very happy for your decision, most people that we tell same things fail to understand, and just keep telling them self that they are right and we are saying all the negative things just to keep them from reaching their goals, which couldn't be more far from the truth.

It's great you don't act like that, realised that you were doing it wrong, and want to do this right. This is your health we are talking about here. That's why everyone responded the way we did for running Tren in your first cycle, people in EF actually consider everyones health above everything else, which is one of the biggest reasons I love this site.

Well, back to your cycle. The way I see it there's no reason why you couldn't make this s great cycle, now that you have dropped off Tren (keep it to use in future, when you have done more cycles, and gathered experience with AAS). You ran it just two weeks at 300 mgs wk (if I remember right), so with enanthate half life with using quick calculation it will take aprox. 10-14 days to get Tren level in your blood under 100 mgs, and after that it shouldn't have much effect anymore. After that it will keep fading away with passing weeks. So don't worry about it too much. Only problem is that you didn't have anything to control Prolactin, so there is a slight chance that you might have some issues from Prolactin during or after your cycle (although I doubt it since you didn't run Tren longer, but if you are prone to Progesterone/Prolactin issues there's always a chance). What you definitely have to add to your cycle is some kind of AI (again if I remember right, you didn't use one), this should also help with any possible Prolactin issues. I personally prefer using Aromasin over Adex, and Forma will probably also work with Test only cycle. Here's how I would lay out cycle for you:

1-10 Test Cyp at 300 mgs wk.
You can bump dose up to 400 after week 2, when Tren has faded from your system. You can also bump it again at wk 6 if you feel like it. I wouldn't go over 500 mgs wk though, since it's your first cycle. Learn to listen to what feedback your body gives you and adjust dosing accordingly.

1-10 Aromasin 12.5 mgs E2D-E3D.
If you get side effects from Estrogen, switch to ED dose. Again adjust dose by listening your body, that's something you want to learn to do. Everyone of us is different, so nobody, but you can tell which exact doses that are right for you.

8-9 HCG 2 × 250 IUs wk
10 HCG 2 × 500 IUs wk

11-16 PCT Six weeks. This is not where I'm at my strongest, so hopefully someone else will chime in too. Especially with the dosing, I can't remember most of them. I'm in TRT, so my "PCT" is quite different from the way how you should do it. I would advice to get at least:
Clomid, Aromasin/Adex/Forma-Stanzol, Ostarine, Post cycle, Unleashed, Keto-Burn, and Methyl-EAA or DAA.
This should cover all your bases.

It would be advisable to also take some cycle support supps like N2Guard, and Hcgenerate. You can find examples easily, so I won't list any more stuff.

One more thing. Get blood work done if you have any problems during the cycle, and/or after your PCT. Post the results here and some of bros here will read them, and see that everything is OK. Or if you have some problems best way to find cause, and figure out way to help is reading your bloods.


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[northernknight]

Actually there is a good PCT for you already in this thread by infraredline: http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?p=16205873

Since you dropped Tren, running Caber for the whole time won't be necessary. I would still suggest to run it for a while as it will fix any Prolactin issues from your Tren use might have caused.
Run it 4 weeks at 0.5 mgs E3D as soon as you can get your hands on some, and you won't have to worry about Prolactin any more.

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[SULLY86]

Thankyou for taking the time to do this for me after i noobed up early on, your a star and i really appreciate it, im following to the book cheers man.

 

[Makaveli Tha Don]

Probably already said, I didn't read the WHOLE thread, but be sure you get a SERM for pct. Check ag guys for legit serms