Six year old girl groped by TSA (video)

[DaBangEm]

I'm not fine with my rights being stripped...I just don't really see airport security as a denial of rights. Flying is a choice, not something anyone is forced to do (pretty sure that got covered somewhere in this thread, but I am too lazy to go back and look for the rebuttal).

No you are right somebody did bring it up. I believe there are two separate issues or avenues here. If an airline, Delta for arguments sake, decided that as part of their company they set up security gates with pat downs and random searches of it's own passengers then that's fine. By purchasing a ticket that airline has that right. You see the same thing at sporting events. Go to a football game and what happens? Everybody gets patted down, you have to take off your hat empty pockets etc. That's the stadiums policy and those people are paid for by the stadium and their budget.

Why I believe this is unconstitutional is because TSA agents are government officials. Transportation Security Administration I believe. The government by it's own set of rules that governs us and them is the constitution, namely the bill of rights where upon the government can not stop and unlawfully search you. It is my contention that the courts and TSA can not simply usurp our bill of rights with out first amending the constitution to reflect that.

I also believe that buying an airline ticket does not automatically strip you of those rights. Driving is dangerous, we are protected from police searching our persons or cars with out a) probable cause b) a search warrant. Same difference. No matter what we do or where we go we never lose those rights. I believe that IMO They, the government, is over reaching and over stepping their ability to subject us to these searches in the context of our fears. We trade liberty for safety, this can not be in a free society. In which this republic was founded and set up on.

Difference again is this. Airline a, sets up it's own security detail. Purchasing a ticket subjects you the purchaser to their demands for services rendered.
Airline a, does not have it's own security detail. Instead tax payer dollars funding the TSA is instead put into place where upon the head of said administration places further pressure on those of us who travel by flight.

 

[the.gladiator1987]

Hey dabangem, I completely agree with you. What these people don't realize is that the government is SLOWLY stripping our rights away. They see this as no big deal, but the big deal is gonna be for our kids, or ours children's kids, when the government is in control of almost everything and were all tagged with rfid chips. These ppl don't see the big picture, they're fuckin dumb is all

 

[nangiggles]

If gladiator agrees with you then clearly you are wrong

 

[musclemom]

Well, seems to me that the people who are railing against the injustices our govt. foists upon us are the 25 and under crowd.

I suggest you unit your forces, find other like-minded individuals and stage a rebellion Overthrow the shackles of greed and abuse, no taxation without representation!!! Power to the People!!!

You don't like the system, get up off your asses and do something to change it, kids. Us old farts are too busy supporting you and your siblings, or babysitting your offspring, or scrambling to figure out what to do when we're too old to work but too broke to retire.

 

[axismundi]

Well, seems to me that the people who are railing against the injustices our govt. foists upon us are the 25 and under crowd.

I suggest you unit your forces, find other like-minded individuals and stage a rebellion Overthrow the shackles of greed and abuse, no taxation without representation!!! Power to the People!!!

You don't like the system, get up off your asses and do something to change it, kids. Us old farts are too busy supporting you and your siblings, or babysitting your offspring, or scrambling to figure out what to do when we're too old to work but too broke to retire.

Or pounding ground keeping your geriatric ass safe.

 

[musclemom]

Or pounding ground keeping your geriatric ass safe.

Hey, I did my time, I joined when I was 17, I made the future safe for the coming generation. My son did his time, too.

A member of my family has served in the military in virtually every military conflict since the Revolutionary war (nevermind that we were on the side of the Tories back then )

 

[Redrocker13]

I'm glad I'm worthless. Let's just just say in my free time I pursue and help organize political groups. Now I'm just really another nobody in middle class USA. I guess I'm just foolish stating my opinion on an AAS forum with other bro's and bra's. I'm obviously not gonna change anybody's mind about this subject. Either you are fine with Uncle Sam stripping you of your rights and you trust the government or you are not ok with it and the endless onslaught of laws and regulations. I think it's moot of what the parents agenda was or is. I am just as upset seeing a middle aged man or woman having to go through this. I also recognize the fact that the TSA agent was respectful and professional throughout the process. I actually think they hate this more than the people going through it.

It creeps me out more so because it always starts out small then the next thing you know we are living in a police state. Sure were not on the doorstep but we are just a little step closer. Classic tortoise and the hair, slow and steady wins the race. I don't think TSA equals bomb or terrorist free flight.

Sorry if I didn't impress you with my writings. I was just stating my opinion and not looking to steal Obama's next Pulitzer.

You aren't wasting your time Bangem and you're not alone. I agree with you that US vs. Davis stands in legal contrast to the 4th ammendment. And I am also appalled at the pat down of a six year old american caucasion girl. The greatest threat to freedom is apathy, when good men and women do nothing. Yes even posting on an unrelated forum to highlight the lack of common sense being excercised by our government. In the immortal words of the poet, "Do not go gentle into that good night."

Semper Fi

 

[the.gladiator1987]

"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
-Benjamin Franklin

 

[cgrayx]

That's fucked up

 

[bakemeacookie]

10 bucks says people who fly on private jets - the super rich & congressmen - don't get fondled by tsa when they board.

Wonder what that says about you poor & middle classers

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