why are the people on the powerlifting board small and putup lot of weight

[The Shadow]

lolololol

 

[CytoMel]

nc lifter,

This is another thread that you started where you don't know what you are talking about. Just like that 100 post thread where you stereotyped all steroid users and everyone ripped into you for sounding like an idiot.

Why dont you get a shirt and go into competition? I bet you havent even been to a powerlifting contest or tried on a shirt so until then shut up and dont bash something you know nothing about-powerlifting.

 

[Deciever]

OMG we dont look strong?? that doesnt mean we dont move big weights.
Your thread came off as very insulting to a few of us PLers

Look at some powerlifters...who are small but put up big numbers....
James Sweet- 1450 total @ 144lbs
Ricky dale crain- 800 squat at 165
Garry frank- 2600+ total at SHW

Pictures wont do anyone justice.... have someone like Screwball stand next to sometime average size in a pic and than tell us he is small.


Strength is about the way that you train...
Hell look at me. when i was 14, i put up a 300 squat in competion , 175 bench, full pause in comp. (195 touch n go), 360 deadlift....all at 129 lbs.


Does the gear do all the lifting for me? NO! without the gear i could put up a 260 squat, 195 bench, and 360 dead.... lifting equipment isnt a miracle thing like most people think..

 

[Arioch]

I don't want to sound like a wet blanket, but there is no such thing as a federation for 'raw' athletes. Athletes, cheat, always have, always will, particularly where strength is involved. I find it very difficult to believe that a tiny federation which is financed on the smell of an oily rag, has anywhere near the sophistication or money to enable it to test it's athletes effectively.

The AAU sponsors mostly raw meets. I have had athletes lift at quite a few of them.

Several federations test their athletes. There are a variety of ways of covering the cost of this. Several federations test as per IOC standards. While this testing is far from perfect, it is as comprehensive as the law allows.

I have been a strength athlete for 31 years. Care to guess how offensive I find your statement, as I have always competed within the rules?

And some of us use little to no lifting equipment. I no longer even wear a belt when I deadlift.

In my gallery are several pictures of athletes of varying sizes. Lamar Gant was the most successful. 15 IPF world championships. All time deadlift records at 123 and 132, pulling 5x bodyweight in both classes. He is also the smallest man in my gallery. Furnas, who totalled 2400, out weighed him by only 150 pounds, and out pulled him by a little less than that.

NYClifter, you obviously know even less about strength than you do about AAS.

You remind me of my son, about 6 years ago, anyway.

 

[Imnotdutch]

Looks like you hit a nerve nc!!! You would have got some more informative replies if you had phrased your post differently . But anyway.......

I'm not a powerlifter......however, I train like one, but I don't compete so I figure I am not one. I also, have the benefit of training in a gym containing some very good bodybuilders. So I get to see both sides of the story. I have several points to make:

Point 1: There is more to being strong than having big muscles. Some of the other posts give details so I wont waste my time.

Point 2: Bench shirts can increase your bench press. The amount you get out of a shirt varies from nothing upto 100 or so lb. A 100lb benefit is rare.....and it takes alot of time and effort to get a shirt to give you this much. So when a powerlifter puts up say 600lb, he is strong......no two ways about it.

Point 3: Powerlifters are judged on how much they lift at a meet using very strict criteria. At no point does looks come into it. Notice how the pics you posted were taken at a meet.....

Point 4: There are some of the big names in powerlifting on the PL board. They dont just claim to lift big......they have done so and their records are available if you ask them.

http://boards.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=161283

im taking a guess...but i think its gootta be in the bench shirts i mean these guys dont even look like they workout to me. some one inform me

theres a link to the pics.....i hear alot of these people claiming that they put up big numbers but they look small as hell and i even think some of them juice too????doesnt make since to me i always thought these dudes were huge that were giving all the advice on the powerlifting board

http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/xdecieve...erx/lst?&.dir=/Okie+Crew+Meet&.src=ph&.view=t

it makes me wonder sometimes is it the benchsuits and the wraps and things like that doing all the work, i mean these guys just dont look big?????i look a hell of alot bigger and dont put up as much weight as these guys. oh well what do you guys think? is it the benchsuits?????someone help me understand

 

[Imnotdutch]

Hannibal gave me a quote once, from Louie Simmons: "I keep a bottle of testosterone sitting on a triple-layer bench press shirt in the back of my gym, but I have yet to see it bench 5 pounds. To be great it takes planning, work, dedication, courage, and aggression. If you lack one of these, you will fail and you have no one to blame but yourself. Losers hate winners, so It’s better to be hated in powerlifting than to hate."

Although I agree with the sentiment of quote, I think it is flawed. If I were to take a crane and put it in my yard it would not lift a thing. A man in my yard might lift a few hundred pounds. Put the crane and the man together and the combination will lift several thousands of pounds.

Havign said that......most people outside of powerlifting overestimate the effectiveness of shirts.

 

[Fast Twitch Fiber]

Well I'm a powerlifter and I'll put the equipment in perspective. My best lifts in the 165 lb weight class are:

With equipment :
485 squat 336 bench 402 deadlift

No equipment:

415 squat 315 bench 425 deadlift

Notice that my best raw deadlift was higher without the deadlift suit.

 

[danielson]

First of all, I'm gonna go on record as saying I find your question offensive.

I'm the smallest guy in those pics, and I'm 6', 195. Do I put up huge numbers? Hell no, but I've only been training 1 year. My bench went from around 45-65lbs in one year to a 232lb one rep max, no shirt, and I have video to prove it.

damn .....im jealous, post a link to your routine dammit i want a new one !

 

[VicTusDeuS]

Where can I get one of dem shirts..I want to break 300lb bench

 

[TheProject]

damn .....im jealous, post a link to your routine dammit i want a new one !

Westside, my friend. Hannibal's actually revising our routine as we speak.