What do we think of this?

[heavyduty-club]

While thinking things over before i'm ready to start training again for the first time in nearly 3 years, i've been looking and making up routines as i go along whether it being a simple program with dumbbells at home or reading about various styles of training, i'm always egre to learn. Some of you have been very helpful in the past and as those people might know i am a huge follower of HIT training (less volume more intensity and heavy weight), but once again my imagination takes over and sooner than later i have another idea.....how does this sound.
Rather than putting all my efforts into training one muscle group a day, with say for example 4 exercises, i was thinking of breaking up the exercises into 3-4 different parts through the week i.e instead of just doing
Bench press
Incline press
Flys
Cable crossovers in one day, i was going to split all that up so i would be technically training chest 4 times over a certain peroid usually within a week and a half. Chest would then be accompanied by back, quads, hamstrings & calves. While on another day i would train delts, triceps, biceps & forearms, i would probably train either 2 days on/one day off or one day on/one day off and repeate the cycle so taking this as another example

Monday
Lat pulldowns 2x8
Bench press 2x8
Squat 2x8-10
Leg curl 2x8-10
Calf raises 2x15

Tuesday
Shoulder press 2x8
Skull crushers 2x8
Bicep curls 2x8
Wrist curls 2x8-10

Wednesday off

Then back in the gym thursday and so on, but instead of repeating mondays routine i would change the exercises for all the bodyparts so rather than lat pulldowns i would do barbell rows, incline bench press in for bench press if you see what i'm getting at, feel free to make changes i.e how many sets and reps stuff like that, as i said i'm trying to stick within the HIT rule book with less volume and heavy ass weights that i can control but because i'm not using all the exercises in one go i can hopefully train muscle groups more often

As always thanks in advance

 

[H_T_]

There's too much wrong with it, not enough time to correct it. Same amount of work for forearms as quads? Squats, DLs, presses, rows. There.

 

[heavyduty-club]

Should i just swallow my pride and say fuck it, do an arnold type routine lol

 

[Saiyan7]

Should i just swallow my pride and say fuck it, do an arnold type routine lol

I'm actually doing an Arnold style and its fucking brutal. Monday and Thursday are chest/back. Tuesday and Friday are legs/shoulders.
I go heavy one set of days and lighter for more reps on the other. Pick four exercises for each group and focus on them. Add some isos if needed.

 

[heavyduty-club]

Whats the sets and reps like man, do you have a wee sample i can look at, i'm now really thinking i should have done his workouts along time ago, i always admired his physique and back then there wasn't a HIT article to be seen anywhere lol, have you seen any improvments doing his stuff lad? I guess when you say 4 exercises of each group that would be like 4 for chest, 4 for back etc. Or like 2 for chest 2 for back?

 

[Saiyan7]

Four of each.
So chest I do flat bench. Incline bench. Flys. And one more.
Back I do T-bar rows. Pull ups. Bent over rows. And superset cable rows with pullovers.

Then legs are squat. DL. Etc.
And the mm four for shoulders.

It's brutal for sure. I've been on it three weeks and am breaking PR regularly.

Heavy days I do sets of 5 and a couple sets of 2-3.
Lighter days I do sets of 14, 12, 10, 8, etc all the way down for the bigger movements and then for some of the isos I shoot for 20+.

 

[heavyduty-club]

I suppose my biggest problem is looking at shit that is either being done by the roid monsters & expecting that i can get like that, or i change my mind more times than acctually doing the routines, technically i've sat on my arse for over 3 years reading about it and not doing anything to put myself to the test.
I'll look at arnolds routine and realise that there was no "guru" or internet to tell those boys how to get shit done, it was all broscience i suppose, but then looking at Dorian Yates i think well less work for better results, it beats you up, i'd just love to see an example from a natural persons point of view what has given the "non" drug users better results, don't get me wrong dude i love the work ethic of Arnie, man was a fucking monster in his own right but had a more achievable body over Dorian or Jay Cutler or Ronnie Coleman etc. Another idol of mine is Branch Warren. Again the work ethic of the boy is breathtaking despite the god awful form, credit has to be given he's a determined bastard, and yet his routine is very basic mostly does 3 sets of 10-15 on everything with the odd dropset here and there, if i can get a path to start on that would fantastic, but again it's who's road do i take man

 

[H_T_]

If you're not doing steroids, you have to use consistency as your barometer. You can't do 30 sets and expect to recover in 2 days for your next workout. 3 days a week with big basics. Spend 3 or 4 months doing a routine and then evaluate. Look at 5x5 or starting strength by Rippetoe.

 

[heavyduty-club]

Even say before looking at 5x5, how many times can i get away with training each muscle group over a week, i know where you are coming from in terms of volume/recovery but even i'm not daft enough to try the exact same split as Arnie, i would at the very least do 3 sets of about 10 with maybe 2 exercises less than his average routine, so like 3 exercises or something or again i'm reading all that stuff wrong? Again lads the help is very helpful i'm quite an awkward shit to work with lol

 

[H_T_]

If you're very sore, don't train that body part that day. If you aren't making consistent, reasonable gains, you are probably doing too much. When I say too much, I mean volume. You don't usually need an extra 4 sets of concentration curls or dumbell flyes at the end of workouts. It's ok to feel whipped after working out, once in a while. But learn to stop yourself from doing too much. Working out should leave you feeling good. Not dead on your ass for 3 days after....