What A Waste

[twistedneck]

Bump for whole milk, tates like a MacDonnalds shake.

Bump for foggy88's avitar. dayum.

 

[thx9000]

Correct me if I am wrong but isn't the liver responsible for converting Protein into Glucose?
If so it is already in the bloodstream.

But go with the two tablespoons of fatty acids per shake idea, not a bad one that (Don't overdo it though!)

Better gains can be attributed to the Milk alone because it is a food in its own right (to me it is anyway)
Something like 300ml is 300 calories?
4 shakes a day and thats 1800 cals (allow 150 cals for the powder), so of course you will put weight on!

Yes, that is gluconeogenesis in the absence of carb's and involves the destruction of muscle for the amino acids. Basically to fuel the kidneys, brain, testes and I can't remember what other organs...

 

[jubei]

Mixing your shake with half and half will turn you into a fat tub of shit, especially if you drink 4 or 5 shakes a day in addition to real food. Mixing shakes with say 2 percent milk is not a bad idea because you get some extra calories when bulking.

 

[chuck48]

Proteins are only gluconeogenic in a starvation state. After taking a million and one biochem and nutrtion courses this is a valid true statement. It is not a blast of sugar either, that isn't right at all. Not disrespecting or flaming but wanted to get the word out.
Thanks
Dr. Chuck48

 

[DeepZenPill]

While I think that mixing protein powders with milk is beneficial, I don't think protein is useless without fat.

I make 2 of my shakes each day with 2% chocolate milk. If I have anything else, it's made with sugar-free koolaid. I haven't gotten fat either way, and I'm very sensitive to carbs when it comes to adding fat.

 

[mt]

The classic after work-out shake is whey isolate with simple carbs with no fat. Especially for those that use insulin it is always recommended only to have protein and carbs without any fat until the insulin is out of your system. I thought protein converted to glucose only if there isn't sufficient carbohydrates in your diet. Maybe I'm missing something but it just does not make intuitive sense to mean that if I drink a protein shake mixed with in apple juice, bananas and some strawberries that the protein will automatically be converted into glucose.

 

[Silent Method]

If you're mixing whey or egg white protein in water, you might as well flush it down the toilet.

Protein can not be absorbed without the presense of fat. Without fat, most of the protein will just be converted to glucose in minutes, so that suposedly super anabolic cocktail you think you're drinking is little more than a blast of sugar.

This is simply not true. I can only assume that this post was made in response to you having read an article or a remark by an "expert" who was confused or ignorant. (Perhaps you will reference a study or two in which the administrators came to such a conclusion - in which case a hundred "don't believe everything you read in a study" posts by Nelson Montana come to mind.)



I was going to map out the process of protein digestion, but I must go to class. As it turns out, some high school kids have put together a fun little site that I've linked HERE.


Nelson, as homework, take a trip to proteinfactory.com - a site with which you are affiliated. The fact is, several of the protein products they offer don't even need to go through the digestion process linked above! See if you can find out which ones.

In addition, there is a clinical term used for a humoral/metabolic state that is often observed after a subject's consumption and absorption of a quality, pure protein supplement such as whey in it's various forms. Can you find that term? (It would not exist if that which you had posted here were true.)

 

[babbabuee]

^

 

[dzuljas]

im a dumbass.....

 

[Nelson Montana]

Knowing the pedantic nature of some of the members, I should have been more specific and said protein is "far less likely to be fully absorbed without fat and much more likely to be converted to glucose", which is absolutely true. The benefits of using milk also stands as do the statements about adding calories while bulking.

It would be nice if people can make their point without condensention or rudeness. Give some people a reason to argue some minute point and the sarcasm and name calling starts right in. Maybe it stems from some sort of insecrurity. Who knows?