What A Waste

[bicepts101]

DOH! I stand corrected . Brain Fart!! I forgot about gluconeogenesis.

 

[ruffian3]

So is all of the protein wasted or just some of it?

 

[Fukkenshredded]

Wrong.

While protein is better utilized in the presence of either sugar or fat, it does not automatically convert to glucose if taken in alone.

There are many determining factors, among them would be the organism's blood sugar level when the protein was consumed.

Spidey--

Yes, protein can be converted to glucose, although not efficiently, since only some of the amino acids can be so converted in the manner that fog88 described. However, carbohydrates cannot be converted into protein.

Nelson's post is another example of his misunderstanding of the body's preferential utilization of fuel in a specific hierarchy, namely, that the body will burn fat and carbs before it burns protien.

 

[sk*]

Every day I hear about guys doing something that is dead wrong and it's time that it was addressed.

If you're mixing whey or egg white protein in water, you might as well flush it down the toilet.

Protein can not be absorbed without the presense of fat. Without fat, most of the protein will just be converted to glucose in minutes, so that suposedly super anabolic cocktail you think you're drinking is little more than a blast of sugar.

Whey and egg whites were never meant to be ingested alone. They are by-products of a more complete protein found in nature. And it's natural to have fat present when eating protein. And if you want size, it's absurd to mix protein with skim milk. Everyone is so afraid of the "saturated fat" in whole milk. It's a myth. Saturated fat has actually been shown to improve thyroid function. Fat is not the enemy. Laziness is.
Bodybuilders need fat. And they ESPECIALLY need it when taking in protein. Start mixing protein with whole milk and you'll be amazed how much more effective it is. Even the lactose in milk is good because it's a carb of animal origin and insulogenic. It's amazing how everyone wants to know what drugs to use when the same results can be acheived with food.

And it you're bulking, use Half&Half in your protein shakes. Don't let anyone tell you "It'll make you fat". You can't grow without extra calories. Keep the junk out of your diet, take protein and fat together, and train hard. It's the only way to grow.

Nelson,

I still have milk that expired on sept 15, is it okay if I use it in my shake?

-sk

 

[babbabuee]

Nelson, I have the utmost respect for you and your opinions and am intrigued by your recent post but I'd love to see some facts backing up your statements.

 

[sk*]

Nelson, I have the utmost respect for you and your opinions and am intrigued by your recent post but I'd love to see some facts backing up your statements.

I bet my left ball you won't get any.

-sk

 

[variation]

why use whole milk? why not just mix some good fat, like olive oil in with the protein shake... saturated fat is pretty useless IMO, and can be detrimental when consumed in excess.

 

[papucho]

bump for nelson to reply...
And fogg88... that avatar is.... I can't stop staring at it...LOL

 

[jubei]

OMFG... I don't know where to start with this one.

 

[sk*]

OMFG... I don't know where to start with this one.

Start with the expired milk. Is the fat in it gonna make me big?

-sk