What A Waste

[kronk]

Yes, your short sightedness is indeed sad.

What's interesting to me is that some mods can come on here, make a banket statement and the response is; "OH REALLY! TELL US MORE!"

Yet I get an endless litany of "prove it prove it, prove it."

I'll repeat what I've said many, many times before. For one thing, I can not cut and paste on this server, so I would have to write out every address of every site that concurred with my conclusions and I am not going to do that. If you have a problem with that, sorry. Secondly, much of my information doesn't come from the internet -- yes, as hard to believe as that may be, there's something called books and journals and I'm not going to present a reference list of them. If you choose to ignore my statements because of that, you have every right to do so.

Nelson,

I never asked you when I first posted on this thread to prove anything. I made a clear statement about what you said. You then came back a few pages late and recanted your statement. Proof means nothing to me at all, because every bit of proof is biased in one way or another. For every study that comes out that says one thing or another, you can always find another that says the opposite.

My issue is that you make statements that are completely false as you did on this post, then you come back trying to recant with insults and such. That is not only not professional, but is totally a slap in the face to the members, mods and all staff of this or any board.

When I said it was sad, this is what I was referencing. The unprofessional manner in which you respond to members and staff is also extremely sad indeed as is you promotion of products not sold on this site. I am all up to a healthy professional debate, however that is not the way you speak to people.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Nelson,

I never asked you when I first posted on this thread to prove anything. I made a clear statement about what you said. You then came back a few pages late and recanted your statement. Proof means nothing to me at all, because every bit of proof is biased in one way or another. For every study that comes out that says one thing or another, you can always find another that says the opposite.

My issue is that you make statements that are completely false as you did on this post, then you come back trying to recant with insults and such. That is not only not professional, but is totally a slap in the face to the members, mods and all staff of this or any board.

When I said it was sad, this is what I was referencing.

Quite frankly, you're full of shit.

You were one of the first to come on with an insult. Go back and check. Obviously you have a short memory. And don't try to patronize the members of the board. I provided information. You provided dissention. Funny how that can be turned around into me slapping the members in the face. Talk about unprofessional.

 

[fogg88]

I guess no one's ever going to provide any evidence for this alleged large scale protein-to-glucose conversion in a non-fasted state.

I've seen a lot of digression to GI transit time, insulin spikes, and the fact that a caloric surplus is necessary to gain mass, but still nothing at all addressing the fallacy that started this whole thread.

Oh well.

 

[Citruscide]

Nelson <thinking>: Hmm, what can I come up with today?

Nelson <thinking>: Let's see, one time I heard that eating a cat will give you better protein than eating a cow.

Nelson <posting on elite>: I can't believe this shit, you fools eat cow when you can actually be eating a cat. (Goes on for ten minutes how everyone is stupid and can't believe how foolish they are for eating cow meat)

Nelson <continues yelling on elite>: Cow meat does nothing for you fools, you are all stupid.

Mods and most members: What the hell are you talking about? We all grew eating cow.

Some kid from unestablished country with 2posts: In my country we eat cat, and I grow big.

Nelson <replying to the mods and members>: You people are stupid, you eat something and you don't know why it is working.

Nelson <replying to the mods and members>: Continues to compliment the foreign kid for eating cat, and then goes on to say that he didn't mean cow meat does NOTHING only that it isn't as good as cat.

<Mods and members get angry>

Nelson: I have 1000s of published articles and I have worked with athletes and fat housewives with kids.

Nelson: (somehow manages to insult the people that disagreed with him)

Members: (insult back)

Foreign kid: I love Nelson.

Nelson to foreign kid: I love you too.

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-sk

This sums it up. Karma to you.

C-ditty

 

[sk*]

Nelson <thinking>: Hmm, what can I come up with today?

Nelson <thinking>: Let's see, one time I heard that eating a cat will give you better protein than eating a cow.

Nelson <posting on elite>: I can't believe this shit, you fools eat cow when you can actually be eating a cat. (Goes on for ten minutes how everyone is stupid and can't believe how foolish they are for eating cow meat)

Nelson <continues yelling on elite>: Cow meat does nothing for you fools, you are all stupid.

Mods and most members: What the hell are you talking about? We all grew eating cow.

Some kid from unestablished country with 2posts: In my country we eat cat, and I grow big.

Nelson <replying to the mods and members>: You people are stupid, you eat something and you don't know why it is working.

Nelson <replying to the mods and members>: Continues to compliment the foreign kid for eating cat, and then goes on to say that he didn't mean cow meat does NOTHING only that it isn't as good as cat.

<Mods and members get angry>

Nelson: I have 1000s of published articles and I have worked with athletes and fat housewives with kids.

Nelson: (somehow manages to insult the people that disagreed with him)

Members: (insult back)

Foreign kid: I love Nelson.

Nelson to foreign kid: I love you too.

<Thread Locked!>

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-sk

 

[kronk]

Quite frankly, you're full of shit.

You were one of the first to come on with an insult. Go back and check. Obviously you have a short memory. And don't try to patronize the members of the board. I provided information. You provided dissention. Funny how that can be turned around into me slapping the members in the face. Talk about unprofessional.

Ok, lets look at every post. This was my first post and was exactly what I said it was above "I never asked you when I first posted on this thread to prove anything. I made a clear statement about what you said.":

LOL @ this whole thread. This entire thread is ludicrous. "Protein can not be absorbed without the presense of fat." This statement is the most ignorant statement I have ever seen regarding protein consumption.

This was my second in which I laughed at a joke someone said:

ROFL!!!!!

Here was my last one in response to you:

Very well said.

Nelson, I as an Elite Mod am not trying to disrespect or embarrass you here, quite frankly I think you have done that to yourself already. I am simply adding my opinion to this matter. The only logic I can see behind your post is this, you are either just trying to be controversial so that you can get more people to buy your books or there is a new line of protein supplement that is coming out that you will be behind. Good luck with either. Peace

So please tell me how I am full of shit. You say that I was the first to insult you, I didn't insult you I made a clear concise comment about your statement. You also say that you provided information, yes you did, FALSE information. Again Nelson, I would love to have this debate with you, but you seem incapable of having a professional factual debate.

 

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[BigAndy69]

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BigAndy, what were your prolactin levels? How do you know if you have sleep apnea? My prolactin is a little elevated (2 blood tests done 3 months apart said around 24-26). I know I have to remove my adenoids because it makes breathing harder, but probably has nothing to do with it.

My doctor is the chief of medicine at the hospital, he didn't show me the exact level but he said it was way out of whack. He knows his stuff. I hadn't been on gear for a while. Also my sex drive was NON existant. No libido nothing, limp dick like deca dick all the time.

My sleep apnea got worse and worse. What you do is get a sleep study and they tell you if you have it. Mine was so bad they are using it as a special case study at the University. I'm suppose to be dead (If it wasn't for my strong heart from all those years of training)

 

[Silent Method]

Yet I get an endless litany of "prove it prove it, prove it."

I'll repeat what I've said many, many times before. For one thing, I can not cut and paste on this server, so I would have to write out every address of every site that concurred with my conclusions and I am not going to do that. If you have a problem with that, sorry. Secondly, much of my information doesn't come from the internet -- yes, as hard to believe as that may be, there's something called books and journals and I'm not going to present a reference list of them. If you choose to ignore my statements because of that, you have every right to do so.

What you have stated in this post goes against what has been established and written in a myriad of textbooks and journals.

You CANNOT present an idea contrary to well established science and expect us to gobble it up WITHOUT some reference that supports your statement. (Well, you CAN expect some of us to.)


You do not have to list every source that agrees with you - that's silly. HOWEVER, why will you not list a few? Give us two reputable internet sites, two books, and two journals that support your statements.

 

[lordValmont]

All I can say after reading thru this thread...

Hey nice avatar Paula-got milk?