What A Waste

[Izzman]

What about post-workout guys? Won't milk just slow down absorption of whey and further prolong catabolism? Should it be mixed with water instead for faster absorption?

 

[DaddyX]

Fogg: No, I wasn't addressing everyone who disagreed. Just those that got "snotty" about it.

Fat slows digestion and the absorbtion of carbs. The benefit is threefold. Less catabolism. More utilized protein. Less fat storage.

Daddy: I have yet to try MuscleMilk but I agree with the concept. But there's no need to buy a pre-mixed MRP. Just go to PF and make your own blend that contains some whole egg. Problem solved. And it's a lot less expensive.

thank you for your input. ill check out pf

 

[Ganryu]

What about post-workout guys? Won't milk just slow down absorption of whey and further prolong catabolism? Should it be mixed with water instead for faster absorption?

I am curious about this question also.

 

[anabolicmd]

Re: Re: Re: What A Waste

What? So the Isopure Whey Isolate drinks with 40g of protein are completely worthless and will be converted directly over to sugar if consumed post workout? For some reason, I'm not buying this at all...

I really don't think a protein mix in water is going to be "poured" down the drain. I have several friends who are competitive bodybuilders who drink their protein mixtures in water... their muscles seem to grow just fine?

C-ditty

My experience with the Isopure 40 gram whey drink while on a low carb diet sort of bear out Nelsons claims. It spiked my blood sugar when I chugged it by itself post workout. When I preceded it with some fish/flax oil and fiber, it didnt spike my blood sugar at all. Granted, this is not rock soild evidence, but the fact that the body can and does convert protein to glycogen is well established. I do believe that all consumed food should be balanced and proportioned according to our metabolic demands. If no fat and carbs ae taken with the protein, the body will use some of the protein for energy and other functions it would normally use the fat and carbs for.

 

[sk*]

Would any of you argue with a grasshopper?

-sk

 

[sawastea]

 

[Triple J]

guys some insulin is released even on pure protein diets the issue is, not even if the protein converts to glucose, but simply the degree of insulin spike which will be greater if absorbtion is faster. debatable if this is good or bad, post-workout this may be considered better. if dieting, the insulin spike may not be desirable.

 

[boogersnax]

Interestingly enough, Author L. Rea wrote in "CHECMICAL MUSCLE" about a protocol for using insulin without the consumption of carbs. It requires a massive amount of protein to be consumed, say 600g/day or more, and relying on gluconeogenesis to supply the carbs produced by the liver. At the same time gluconeogenesis can be produced using the glycerol portion of fats, thus, why lo-carb diets work.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Okay, you got me. I just signed a major contract with the milk company and promised to get them more business by going on EF and telling people to drink milk. That'll do it.
I swear, some of the accusations are just moronic.

Then of course you have the flamers...um, I mean the mods who love to dismiss what I say while providing heaping mounds of evidence to the contrary. No, wait a minute. They provided no evidence, did they? They're mods. Just believe what they say.

And finally, lets not forget those that get really peeved at posts that get thousands of view and dozens of replies. All that interest is really a bother isn't it? Maybe he's right. From now on, lets stick to issues like which testosterone is best and if it's okay to drink winny.

 

[anabolicmd]

guys some insulin is released even on pure protein diets the issue is, not even if the protein converts to glucose, but simply the degree of insulin spike which will be greater if absorbtion is faster. debatable if this is good or bad, post-workout this may be considered better. if dieting, the insulin spike may not be desirable.

For the vast majority of people, an insulin spike is not desirable. It shuts down fat mobilization and increases fat storage. Bad news.