ok here are some segments with my EX- i talked to her today after I tried to make amends with her last week and flew out to see her in St. Louis to support her graduation from amilitary school. there she dissed me pretty hard so i got the feeling she had cheated on me so i took off.....enjoy
Nicksbubby=Christin(the EX)
Wulfgar64D=Me..
nicksbubby (5:23:02 PM): until after I had made my own decisions
nicksbubby (5:23:09 PM): and sealed the deal
Wulfgar64D (5:23:18 PM): sealed the deal?
nicksbubby (5:24:08 PM): made it final
Wulfgar64D (5:24:16 PM): ?
nicksbubby (5:24:32 PM): ? what
Wulfgar64D (5:24:43 PM): how did you seal the deal?
nicksbubby (5:24:53 PM): made up my mind
Wulfgar64D (5:25:12 PM): oh, and this was during memorial day weekend?
nicksbubby (5:25:21 PM): yup
Wulfgar64D (5:25:41 PM): and y then did you still let me fly out there?
nicksbubby (5:25:46 PM): dont know
Wulfgar64D (5:25:57 PM): I could have exchanged the tickets
nicksbubby (5:26:02 PM): sorry
nicksbubby (5:26:23 PM): maybe I felt that was my revenge for hurting me
nicksbubby (5:26:32 PM): selfish I know
nicksbubby (5:26:42 PM): Im not oerfect
nicksbubby (5:26:45 PM): perfect
Wulfgar64D (5:26:59 PM): i think your vengance ran a little more sinister than just that Christin...
nicksbubby (5:27:15 PM): yeah u know what ur right it did
Wulfgar64D (5:27:59 PM): i just wish you would own it...i see it eating you up inside...
nicksbubby (5:28:22 PM): oh its not eating me up at all
nicksbubby (5:28:48 PM): its a choice I made
Wulfgar64D (5:29:15 PM): well i hope it was worth it then
nicksbubby (5:29:29 PM): worth what?
Wulfgar64D (5:30:29 PM): worth the karmic retribution you will ultimately pay and the loss of what could have been a wonderful relationship....all for a short time of pleasure
nicksbubby (5:31:14 PM): there never would have been a wonderful relationship with us Nick
nicksbubby (5:31:32 PM): we are too different
nicksbubby (5:32:01 PM): Ill take the karmic retribution when it comes with a smile
Wulfgar64D (5:32:19 PM): thats no reason for vengance and betrayal...there is a higher road you could have taken
obviously she didnt
blah blah blah and we cut to the next highlight:
Wulfgar64D (5:36:56 PM): maybe cheating isnt the right word then eh?
nicksbubby (5:37:03 PM): I now u werent completely happy with me
nicksbubby (5:37:18 PM): i didnt know if I wanted another chance
nicksbubby (5:37:37 PM): among other things
nicksbubby (5:37:53 PM): u can call it whatever u want
Wulfgar64D (5:37:55 PM): I thought you did want another chance for us...i thought you kept hope an wanted to try...but after the "deal was sealed"...thats an effective way to say that you didnt want to try
nicksbubby (5:38:10 PM): it happened before that
Wulfgar64D (5:38:26 PM): what happened befor that?
nicksbubby (5:38:37 PM): but i was between being selfish and being honest with myself
nicksbubby (5:39:01 PM): my thoughts and realizations happened
Wulfgar64D (5:39:12 PM): then what was "that"?
nicksbubby (5:39:32 PM): I realized who I was and what made me happy
nicksbubby (5:39:58 PM): it had nothing to personally do with u
uh oh..she is getting closer to admitting it...onward!!!
nicksbubby (5:40:44 PM): I just want to continue to embrace my youth and have fun
Wulfgar64D (5:41:12 PM): men can be very convicing sometimes cant they?
nicksbubby (5:41:19 PM): my intentions were never to hurt u, but if inthe process I did Im sorry
nicksbubby (5:41:29 PM): men meaning?
Wulfgar64D (5:41:33 PM): the process of what?
nicksbubby (5:41:54 PM): the relationship and what has transpired after
Wulfgar64D (5:42:20 PM): what transpired? sum it up for me
nicksbubby (5:42:59 PM): leading u on and having u come to missouri for nothing
Wulfgar64D (5:44:07 PM): ego, pride and revenge have no compassion for anyone or anything but themselves
Wulfgar64D (5:44:17 PM): so please dont lie by saying you are sorry about it
nicksbubby (5:44:25 PM): and what did u mean by men can be convincing?
Wulfgar64D (5:44:48 PM): I know guys out there were "helping" along your decisions
nicksbubby (5:45:04 PM): no one "helped me" with my decision
Wulfgar64D (5:45:18 PM): ok
nicksbubby (5:45:35 PM): John tried to discourage me, but I make my own decisions.
Wulfgar64D (5:46:09 PM): discourage you from what?
nicksbubby (5:46:45 PM): doing what I did
Wulfgar64D (5:47:14 PM): which was?
nicksbubby (5:48:04 PM): Im not going to go into it with u, because u already know, but like I said I make my own decisions and Ill have to deal with the karma when it comes
nicksbubby (5:49:09 PM): its not the only karma thats coming my way
nicksbubby (5:49:21 PM): but life goes on and it will all be ok
Wulfgar64D (5:49:22 PM): Im just suprised you tried to lie to me and tell me it never happened
Wulfgar64D (5:49:32 PM): i thought you would of given me more credit than that
nicksbubby (5:49:49 PM): i just didnt feel it was any of ur business
DAAAAMMMMNNNNN!!!!! amazingly she got so twisted up in her own bullshit she finally admitted her shit(kinda)...more still!
nicksbubby (5:50:55 PM): it was a very emotionally confusing time for me
Wulfgar64D (5:51:02 PM): I hope it was really spectacular.....god, i just wish you could see where you are going
nicksbubby (5:51:25 PM): where am I going...please tell me oh wise one
nicksbubby (5:51:47 PM): would it make u feel better if I told u it was
nicksbubby (5:51:58 PM): what do u want to hear, i dont get it
nicksbubby (5:52:45 PM): u want me to tell u that your a superb human being and then Im a horrible person that gets what I deserve?!?
Wulfgar64D (5:52:56 PM): im not blaming you
Wulfgar64D (5:53:20 PM): I just want you to heal and come out of this empowered...there is still hope...things dont have to be this way
Wulfgar64D (5:53:42 PM): there is still hope, maybe not for us.....but there is hope
nicksbubby (5:53:42 PM): I am empowered, more so than I was 6 months ago
Wulfgar64D (5:54:00 PM): cant you see this is what happened between you and Shawn?(note: shawn is the ex husband she cheated on years ago)
nicksbubby (5:54:17 PM): not quite
Wulfgar64D (5:54:18 PM): you will repeat it again if you cant learn the lessons now
nicksbubby (5:54:51 PM): yeah the lesson is I'm not in the right mind frame right now to be in a relationship
Wulfgar64D (5:54:59 PM): ur right..not quite
Wulfgar64D (5:55:03 PM): this lesson is harder
Wulfgar64D (5:55:09 PM): and the next one will be even worse
nicksbubby (5:55:18 PM): I was so hurt by u, not that it justifies it
Wulfgar64D (5:55:23 PM): and it just gets worse and worse and worse until you handle it
nicksbubby (5:55:27 PM): how is this lesson harder?
Wulfgar64D (5:55:47 PM): you told me this hurt you more than your ex ever did
nicksbubby (5:56:54 PM): only becasuse we werent all that close when it ended
nicksbubby (5:57:22 PM): look, what happened happened and I just want to move on with my life
nicksbubby (5:57:43 PM): I've learned things about myself that I never would have learned otherwise and Im grateful
nicksbubby (5:57:52 PM): but I just want to move forward
Wulfgar64D (5:58:05 PM): Chrisitn stop being so damn naieve...you KNOW we were still together and you cheated anyways....the longer you keep bullshitting yourself saying "you broke up with me" to justify it the bigger hole you will dig for yourself
Wulfgar64D (5:58:35 PM): just own what you did cause you did it knowingly to get revenge on me for hurting you and be done with that shit
nicksbubby (5:58:47 PM): revenge was not on my mind
Wulfgar64D (5:58:56 PM): your not stupid so stop trying pretend you are
Wulfgar64D (5:59:06 PM): what was on your mind then?
nicksbubby (5:59:06 PM): holy shit r u serious
nicksbubby (5:59:40 PM): not revenge, there had been attraction with me and this person for awhile
Wulfgar64D (5:59:40 PM): Chrsitin your stuck in denial and pretending to be stupid to justify your actions....stop it..i see right through your bullshit
Wulfgar64D (6:00:00 PM): john right?
nicksbubby (6:00:08 PM): no actually it wasnt
nicksbubby (6:00:25 PM): it was someone that I knew when I was stationed in WA
nicksbubby (6:00:36 PM): thats stationed there in MO now
Wulfgar64D (6:00:41 PM): oh, you must not of told me about him
nicksbubby (6:00:54 PM): nope
nicksbubby (6:01:27 PM): in my eyes we were not together at all
Wulfgar64D (6:01:35 PM): your eyes were closed
Wulfgar64D (6:01:39 PM): and you were lying to yourself
Wulfgar64D (6:01:44 PM): and you still are
The end...I offered her forgiveness but she sint sorry about anything...tangled webs we weave in relationships...wow
Nicksbubby=Christin(the EX)
Wulfgar64D=Me..
nicksbubby (5:23:02 PM): until after I had made my own decisions
nicksbubby (5:23:09 PM): and sealed the deal
Wulfgar64D (5:23:18 PM): sealed the deal?
nicksbubby (5:24:08 PM): made it final
Wulfgar64D (5:24:16 PM): ?
nicksbubby (5:24:32 PM): ? what
Wulfgar64D (5:24:43 PM): how did you seal the deal?
nicksbubby (5:24:53 PM): made up my mind
Wulfgar64D (5:25:12 PM): oh, and this was during memorial day weekend?
nicksbubby (5:25:21 PM): yup
Wulfgar64D (5:25:41 PM): and y then did you still let me fly out there?
nicksbubby (5:25:46 PM): dont know
Wulfgar64D (5:25:57 PM): I could have exchanged the tickets
nicksbubby (5:26:02 PM): sorry
nicksbubby (5:26:23 PM): maybe I felt that was my revenge for hurting me
nicksbubby (5:26:32 PM): selfish I know
nicksbubby (5:26:42 PM): Im not oerfect
nicksbubby (5:26:45 PM): perfect
Wulfgar64D (5:26:59 PM): i think your vengance ran a little more sinister than just that Christin...
nicksbubby (5:27:15 PM): yeah u know what ur right it did
Wulfgar64D (5:27:59 PM): i just wish you would own it...i see it eating you up inside...
nicksbubby (5:28:22 PM): oh its not eating me up at all
nicksbubby (5:28:48 PM): its a choice I made
Wulfgar64D (5:29:15 PM): well i hope it was worth it then
nicksbubby (5:29:29 PM): worth what?
Wulfgar64D (5:30:29 PM): worth the karmic retribution you will ultimately pay and the loss of what could have been a wonderful relationship....all for a short time of pleasure
nicksbubby (5:31:14 PM): there never would have been a wonderful relationship with us Nick
nicksbubby (5:31:32 PM): we are too different
nicksbubby (5:32:01 PM): Ill take the karmic retribution when it comes with a smile
Wulfgar64D (5:32:19 PM): thats no reason for vengance and betrayal...there is a higher road you could have taken
obviously she didnt
blah blah blah and we cut to the next highlight:
Wulfgar64D (5:36:56 PM): maybe cheating isnt the right word then eh?
nicksbubby (5:37:03 PM): I now u werent completely happy with me
nicksbubby (5:37:18 PM): i didnt know if I wanted another chance
nicksbubby (5:37:37 PM): among other things
nicksbubby (5:37:53 PM): u can call it whatever u want
Wulfgar64D (5:37:55 PM): I thought you did want another chance for us...i thought you kept hope an wanted to try...but after the "deal was sealed"...thats an effective way to say that you didnt want to try
nicksbubby (5:38:10 PM): it happened before that
Wulfgar64D (5:38:26 PM): what happened befor that?
nicksbubby (5:38:37 PM): but i was between being selfish and being honest with myself
nicksbubby (5:39:01 PM): my thoughts and realizations happened
Wulfgar64D (5:39:12 PM): then what was "that"?
nicksbubby (5:39:32 PM): I realized who I was and what made me happy
nicksbubby (5:39:58 PM): it had nothing to personally do with u
uh oh..she is getting closer to admitting it...onward!!!
nicksbubby (5:40:44 PM): I just want to continue to embrace my youth and have fun
Wulfgar64D (5:41:12 PM): men can be very convicing sometimes cant they?
nicksbubby (5:41:19 PM): my intentions were never to hurt u, but if inthe process I did Im sorry
nicksbubby (5:41:29 PM): men meaning?
Wulfgar64D (5:41:33 PM): the process of what?
nicksbubby (5:41:54 PM): the relationship and what has transpired after
Wulfgar64D (5:42:20 PM): what transpired? sum it up for me
nicksbubby (5:42:59 PM): leading u on and having u come to missouri for nothing
Wulfgar64D (5:44:07 PM): ego, pride and revenge have no compassion for anyone or anything but themselves
Wulfgar64D (5:44:17 PM): so please dont lie by saying you are sorry about it
nicksbubby (5:44:25 PM): and what did u mean by men can be convincing?
Wulfgar64D (5:44:48 PM): I know guys out there were "helping" along your decisions
nicksbubby (5:45:04 PM): no one "helped me" with my decision
Wulfgar64D (5:45:18 PM): ok
nicksbubby (5:45:35 PM): John tried to discourage me, but I make my own decisions.
Wulfgar64D (5:46:09 PM): discourage you from what?
nicksbubby (5:46:45 PM): doing what I did
Wulfgar64D (5:47:14 PM): which was?
nicksbubby (5:48:04 PM): Im not going to go into it with u, because u already know, but like I said I make my own decisions and Ill have to deal with the karma when it comes
nicksbubby (5:49:09 PM): its not the only karma thats coming my way
nicksbubby (5:49:21 PM): but life goes on and it will all be ok
Wulfgar64D (5:49:22 PM): Im just suprised you tried to lie to me and tell me it never happened
Wulfgar64D (5:49:32 PM): i thought you would of given me more credit than that
nicksbubby (5:49:49 PM): i just didnt feel it was any of ur business
DAAAAMMMMNNNNN!!!!! amazingly she got so twisted up in her own bullshit she finally admitted her shit(kinda)...more still!
nicksbubby (5:50:55 PM): it was a very emotionally confusing time for me
Wulfgar64D (5:51:02 PM): I hope it was really spectacular.....god, i just wish you could see where you are going
nicksbubby (5:51:25 PM): where am I going...please tell me oh wise one
nicksbubby (5:51:47 PM): would it make u feel better if I told u it was
nicksbubby (5:51:58 PM): what do u want to hear, i dont get it
nicksbubby (5:52:45 PM): u want me to tell u that your a superb human being and then Im a horrible person that gets what I deserve?!?
Wulfgar64D (5:52:56 PM): im not blaming you
Wulfgar64D (5:53:20 PM): I just want you to heal and come out of this empowered...there is still hope...things dont have to be this way
Wulfgar64D (5:53:42 PM): there is still hope, maybe not for us.....but there is hope
nicksbubby (5:53:42 PM): I am empowered, more so than I was 6 months ago
Wulfgar64D (5:54:00 PM): cant you see this is what happened between you and Shawn?(note: shawn is the ex husband she cheated on years ago)
nicksbubby (5:54:17 PM): not quite
Wulfgar64D (5:54:18 PM): you will repeat it again if you cant learn the lessons now
nicksbubby (5:54:51 PM): yeah the lesson is I'm not in the right mind frame right now to be in a relationship
Wulfgar64D (5:54:59 PM): ur right..not quite
Wulfgar64D (5:55:03 PM): this lesson is harder
Wulfgar64D (5:55:09 PM): and the next one will be even worse
nicksbubby (5:55:18 PM): I was so hurt by u, not that it justifies it
Wulfgar64D (5:55:23 PM): and it just gets worse and worse and worse until you handle it
nicksbubby (5:55:27 PM): how is this lesson harder?
Wulfgar64D (5:55:47 PM): you told me this hurt you more than your ex ever did
nicksbubby (5:56:54 PM): only becasuse we werent all that close when it ended
nicksbubby (5:57:22 PM): look, what happened happened and I just want to move on with my life
nicksbubby (5:57:43 PM): I've learned things about myself that I never would have learned otherwise and Im grateful
nicksbubby (5:57:52 PM): but I just want to move forward
Wulfgar64D (5:58:05 PM): Chrisitn stop being so damn naieve...you KNOW we were still together and you cheated anyways....the longer you keep bullshitting yourself saying "you broke up with me" to justify it the bigger hole you will dig for yourself
Wulfgar64D (5:58:35 PM): just own what you did cause you did it knowingly to get revenge on me for hurting you and be done with that shit
nicksbubby (5:58:47 PM): revenge was not on my mind
Wulfgar64D (5:58:56 PM): your not stupid so stop trying pretend you are
Wulfgar64D (5:59:06 PM): what was on your mind then?
nicksbubby (5:59:06 PM): holy shit r u serious
nicksbubby (5:59:40 PM): not revenge, there had been attraction with me and this person for awhile
Wulfgar64D (5:59:40 PM): Chrsitin your stuck in denial and pretending to be stupid to justify your actions....stop it..i see right through your bullshit
Wulfgar64D (6:00:00 PM): john right?
nicksbubby (6:00:08 PM): no actually it wasnt
nicksbubby (6:00:25 PM): it was someone that I knew when I was stationed in WA
nicksbubby (6:00:36 PM): thats stationed there in MO now
Wulfgar64D (6:00:41 PM): oh, you must not of told me about him
nicksbubby (6:00:54 PM): nope
nicksbubby (6:01:27 PM): in my eyes we were not together at all
Wulfgar64D (6:01:35 PM): your eyes were closed
Wulfgar64D (6:01:39 PM): and you were lying to yourself
Wulfgar64D (6:01:44 PM): and you still are
The end...I offered her forgiveness but she sint sorry about anything...tangled webs we weave in relationships...wow