training fallacies that annoy me

[Jguns]

There is a guy at my gym that does excercises that I have never even seen before. They all use a ton of momemtum. He also puts like 5 plates on the preacher curl machine and moves it like three inches. The sad thing is that he is a chiropractor!

 

[ragin']

some things just dont make any sense, huh?

 

[rushx79]

Beyond the obvious, iddiotic, newbie exercises,

These two get seem to be incorporated by many know-it-alls ...

They are:

1) behind the neck lat-pull downs-- I just cringe when I see this.. Imagine if the cable snapped.. Especially the way the idiots in my gym do the exercise-- with the entire stack, coming off the seat and then pulling down with their entire body weight.

But really, there is no difference between behind the neck pulldowns and infront of the neck.

2) Supinated (plams up) triceps pushdowns. Unlike the biceps, where this change of grip makes a difference, on tri's, it makes no difference at all... only you cannot lift as much weight with such an awkward hand position.

any more, guys?

Andy

i had a really hard time getting the horse shoe look on the side of my arms to stand out, UNTIL i started adding a PALMS UP exercise to my tricep routine. so im gonna have to say IT DOES MATTER.

 

[Delinquent]

actually behind the neck pulldowns and upright rows are two of the most dangerous excercises you can do. This is because they put extreme stress on your rotator cuff. Anything that makes your shoulder twist like that is asking for trouble. Another one is barbell military press behind your head. It's a great excerise but do them in front of your head. And them some guys wonder why their shoulders hurt. It's because they are doing these excercises. And if you ask where I get this info from, I remember reading it in an american journal of fitness email I get. Don't know if they have any credibility but it makes sense.

 

[INSANE 1]

i have a group mof high school kids that all weigh under 175. they put 315 on the flat bench and then try to bench it with two spotters. i think the spotters work harder than the bench guy! and yes they scream and yell and spit. its crazy. most of the other guys try not to watch so no one sees when one of them gets hurt!

 

[Deepsquat]

okayt agree with all of the behind the neck crap. BUT you guys are wacked if you think that there is no diff between palms up and palms down tri push downs! ...Palms up hits rear head WAY MORE !

 

[Black Hamma]

What about half benchers???

 

[3Vandoo]

I must say most ppls at my gym

I think Ill go with a machine gun someday and kill them all


But I like these two punks kids that look like Marilyn Manson, they put 315 on the bench and the spotter is screaming like hell because he pulling a good half!

Or the morons that do dumbell curls and move their bodies like they are dancing while using 10lbs

or the b*** doing steppers for hours, but most of their body is lying on the bar, while no muscle groups actually work.

Or the guys that Squat 1inch !!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Hugh Gellatts]

what about when I am doing hang cleans or push-presses and some moron approaches me and says that I am "cheating and using my legs" to get the weight up.


also the latest rage at the gym is for the 12 inch arm guys to remove the bar from the cable row, grasp the cable and do tricep kickbacks with just the top plate. I didn't think you could get a more retarded excercise than dumbell tri-kickbacks, but these guys managed to do it.


as for the reverse grip tri stuff, I sometimes do a narrow reverse grip on overhead ez-bar extensions.... it lets you do the lift without the elbows flaring, and at least for me is a little easier on the elbows.

 

[Andy13]

okayt agree with all of the behind the neck crap. BUT you guys are wacked if you think that there is no diff between palms up and palms down tri push downs! ...Palms up hits rear head WAY MORE !

I don't doubt that you 'feel' it differently.. But, really, anatomically, there is no difference.. I'm quite positive on this one. If you work on your bicep flexibility, you will see that you get the same 'feel' with palm down as palm up.

Andy