training fallacies that annoy me

[Andy13]

Beyond the obvious, iddiotic, newbie exercises,

These two get seem to be incorporated by many know-it-alls ...

They are:

1) behind the neck lat-pull downs-- I just cringe when I see this.. Imagine if the cable snapped.. Especially the way the idiots in my gym do the exercise-- with the entire stack, coming off the seat and then pulling down with their entire body weight.

But really, there is no difference between behind the neck pulldowns and infront of the neck.

2) Supinated (plams up) triceps pushdowns. Unlike the biceps, where this change of grip makes a difference, on tri's, it makes no difference at all... only you cannot lift as much weight with such an awkward hand position.

any more, guys?

Andy

 

[Andy13]

Oh, yeah.. 21's are also pretty idotic.. But I kind of throw that into the newbie categorie.

Another one is concentration or cable curls for "improving the peak on your bicep." This one cracks me up.. You cannot change the shape of your muscle.. You can just make it a bigger version of the present shape.

Andy

 

[Willyumyum]

training fallacies i see every day

Some skinny little kid benching 65 pounds and screaming at the top of his lungs like its some record bench....... They then proceed to stand up all red faced, and flushed and rub their pecs like some great feat of strength has just been displayed (yes i do see this just about every day)

The guys who take up 25 minutes on a bench or piece of equipment because they think doing 125 reps per set does something....

I don't know if one can call these fallacies but they are certainly annoying yet funny at the same time....
YUM

 

[Mr_Pincushonass]

lol

 

[Kodesh]

Beyond the obvious, iddiotic, newbie exercises,

These two get seem to be incorporated by many know-it-alls ...

They are:

1) behind the neck lat-pull downs-- I just cringe when I see this.. Imagine if the cable snapped.. Especially the way the idiots in my gym do the exercise-- with the entire stack, coming off the seat and then pulling down with their entire body weight. Now i always check cables before first set.
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i don't have to imagine, this shit happened to me. I fucking knocked myself out for 20 sec or so when the cable snapped. Luckily it was winter and i was wearing a beanie, otherwise i would be bleeding all other the place.

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But really, there is no difference between behind the neck pulldowns and infront of the neck.
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huge difference for me...weight wise. and if cable snapped while you are doing it infront there is a possibility you could bring the bar on your face...ouch.

2) Supinated (plams up) triceps pushdowns. Unlike the biceps, where this change of grip makes a difference, on tri's, it makes no difference at all... only you cannot lift as much weight with such an awkward hand position.

any more, guys?

Andy

 

[HamHock]

Have any of you guys seen that midget that ties weights to his dick and "curls" them? Well, I tried that shit & all it did for me was get me kicked out of the gym. Boy, that midget is a dummy.

 

[The_Eviscerator]

OK, Here is a subject I can go off on:

1. Upright rows with your hands actually touching each other on the bar. WTF!!! All you are doing is stretching and tearing your rotator cuff.

2. Close grips with hands touching... I know they are supposed to be close, but not that close guys.

3. Tricep kick backs when you have 14 inch arms.

4. The belief that a 2 hour work-out is better than a one hour intense work-out. I assure that many of us were guilty of this stupidity when we started.

5. Having your lifting partner assist on every goddamn rep.

6. Basically any so-called shaping exercise... because as ANDY13 said, you can not shape anything, beyond the shape it has.

 

[musclebrains]

Ditto for the upright row -- guaranteed to wreck your rotator cuff eventually, NO MATTER the hand grip.

 

[Andy13]

Oh yeah.. triceps kick backs..

What I really want to say to these guys is "where's the force, here, fellas? Looks like your rear delt is doing most of the work here.

But what's even worse is when these idiots do that exercise and bring bring their arm back beyond 90 degrees, nearly hitting themselves in the face and then using that momentum to throw the weight back..

I don't bother to correct them.. You usually get the guys who says "uh.. yeah.. well ya know.. I played high school football, scored four touchdowns in the city championship game by the way, and I've been doing it like this for 15 years."

Huh.. So apparently a wrong exercise becomes "right" after that 15 year point, eh?

Andy

 

[samson69]

HEYYYYYY THATS ME:

You mean seeing that I am 174lbs and I am benching 145 and yelling and screaming and doing like a 100 reps it isnt doing anything?
Shit I just read that my favorite exercises were shit too,man I am just a mess!
Hey by the way how the hell do you get the vial top back on after you break it off?
ok ok I had to write this as I thought it would be funny,sorry!!
LOL
samson