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the best cutting steriod?

In this thread, needsize said

"No steroid will help you lose fat, their role when cutting is simply to maintain muscle mass, while you use diet and cardio to drop the fat. Most people stick with gear that has a low conversion to estrogen so that they can avoid the water retention. But if you have liquidex/arimidex then you can basically use any steroid as part of a cutting cycle"


http://www.steroidology.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=813&highlight=cutting
 
Well, needsize was mistaken then. Many people on this board and others will tell you that no steroid burns fat. That simply is not true. Two steroids help to burn fat in a significant way--stanozolol and trenbelone acetate.

The actual mechanisms are complex, but there is a simple aspect to them both, which is that they increase body temperature. Winstrol is more pyrogenic than trenbelone, but they both exert this effect, and coupled with their anticatabolic effect, the net result is fatloss with muscle preservation.

I'm not sure where this whole idea that "winstrol does not burn fat" started, but I think it has to do with the fact that winstrol does not act directly upon the fat cell. That, couple dwith the tendency for people to simply repeat what they have been told without doing any research themselves has led to the acceptance of this myth (along with many others).

Of course winstrol burns fat. Anyone who has shot enough can tell you that without having to do any research. I have posted detailed accounts of the mechanisms through which this occurs, and I won't post it again here, but it is available with the search button, which is why it is so surprising that people still ask the question. (Now that I think about it, maybe George limited those threads' availability to platinum members--I am not one).

Anyway, all I am saying here is that I have not only had considerable experience here, but I have done the research and can back up what I claim. In fact, you will find that I rarely post (look at my registration date and the number of posts I have), and when I do I try to be certain that I am correct. This is not always the case (I have blundered a time or two), but more often than not I make a pretty good case for my claims. First off, I am lean year round. I don't bullshit about my BF%, pics are posted and are available for all to see. I'm not big, but I'm not scrawny either. Secondly, I'm not just altogether pure stupid. And thirdly, I THINK FOR MYSELF AND DO MY OWN RESEARCH.

I don't know everything there is to know about this issue. Not by a long shot. I want to learn, believe me. Many members on this board are more knowledgeable than I, and furthermore I can admit when I have made an error.

If I am in error here, please document it and I will gladly acknowledge the fact and learn from it. In the meanwhile, might I suggest that you rely less on what board members say and more on your own research, and if you are going to forward an assertion as fact, be sure that you know what you are talking about and be able to make a logical case rather than just sighting some thread made by someone else. You are responsible for your own words.

Lastly, when someone does make an error, it is not necessary to accuse them of 'having issues'. That is extremely presumptious, and as you can now see, is totally unwarranted. It sets the tone of arrogance, and in the event that you are wrong yourself (as in this case), it can be embarassing.
 
Deca has always ripped me to shreds.
 
ok fellas

the consensus is definitely Fina/Winny

lets hear opinions on amount and duration of each substance for a cutting cycle

plus anyone have any furhter info on using propecia with fina/winny???
 
Fukkenshredded said:
Test/Dbol/Deca for cutting? You genuinely believe this is equivalent to test/winny/fina? You are telling us that all things being equal, these two combos will act the same on a person?
As long as their diet is in check, I suppose? Sorry, sir, but that is plain wrong. Just absolutely wrong

I am not suggesting that cutting with these agents cannot be done. In fact, many months ago I posted on the very differences that certain steroids have and how one should approach cutting with them, all the while pointing out that cutting can be accomplished on any roid.

The quesiton is not, "Can it be done?", but rather, "Are some better than others for cutting?"

And the answer to that question is yes.

Fukkenshredded is absolutely correct here. To summarize what he said: Cutting with any steroid will be more effective than cutting natural. No one will disagree with this. But some steroids are substantially better than others to cut with. No question about it. The best are clearly fina and winny, with help from any of the following: prop, suspension, anavar, anadrol, equipoise.
 
shape said:
ok fellas

the consensus is definitely Fina/Winny

lets hear opinions on amount and duration of each substance for a cutting cycle

plus anyone have any furhter info on using propecia with fina/winny???

Beginner: 75mg Fina and 50 MG Winny EOD
Vet: 75mg Fina and 50mg Winny ED

Add in 50mg Proviron ED to harden up and your set...assuming your training and diet are in line.
 
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