Before hitting back, Ill summarise and try to clarify a little more about what I said earlier.
The reason I mentioned using very low anabolic doses infrequently and being on a poverty budget, is so that other lifters can get some idea of what they may be able to accomplish in limited circumstances. Im very efficient with budgeting because Ive never had alot of money to work with. Therefore I dont have pets, girlfriends, kids, none of that shit. I have specific ideas of how I want to live, and Ive focused my energy on being able to pursue weight lifting in the way that I do. My car is 10 years old and paid off. I got my place during the housing crash and its paid off. I keep my bills very low. I dont need alot of space. I dont eat out and I know how to eat cheaper when need be. Small place means very small bills. I dont need any excess. Ive never been interested in that. I always just wanted to pursue my training mainly. Thats always been my vent for my demons, and kept my mind somewhat controlled. Maintaining that was always priority one.
So there are sacrifices and prioritizing needs to be done. If you have more resources then this is less significant. My point is you dont need alot a anabolics and you can afford to eat enough if you prioritize getting it done. You can still get as large and strong as me. I believe anyone can atleast get to my level. Its just been a long and very persistant thing. Thats the hardest part is keeping ontop of the shit.
Im not big on percentages but just to give a general idea of what Im trying to say Ill use them. Im not saying anything is so simple as that. Training is maybe 15 percent of the fucking endeavor. You can bust your ass training, do maximal muscle damage. Youve only just completed 15 percent of what needs to be done for that day. Thats not shit when you think about it.
I spent most of my lifting by doing maximal damage in the gym to vent my demons. Not optimal for getting larger or stronger obviously. Not advisable for those looking to get better in those areas, but I was aware and that vent took priority for ME.
To get size and strength results maximally, you have to be willing to eat continuously when not in the gym on a consistant basis. Once you start to max out your drugless ability you then have to start on anabolics. Once lower doses become more ineffective that has to be raised too.
Eventually to reach a real freakish level of size, you need massive doses of anabolics. Its common to spend several thousand on anabolics monthly.
I still believe I will get pretty massive the way Im doing shit, but very slowly. Obviously wont have the advantage of huge synthetic gains. I will never get to a size that I view as massive, but in retrospect it should be considerable. I was 105-115 I estimate when starting. So its already alot of body mass that ive gained in 22 years. Even if I abused hormones I would never be satisfied anyway, and realising this I can save myself alot of damage and money. Not that I could afford that shit anyway.
Im practically fucking natural compared to what I see used on these forums and by even amateur bodybuilders. I only bring that up to say that you can probably do way more than you believe.
Anyone who is smaller or weaker than me now, can be much larger and stronger than me later, I believe. I think everyone pretty much has that potential. Not many would want to sustain that lifestyle longterm but thats up to the individual.
I have major digestive issues, many strains and injuries. I hate to eat, bad nerves. I cannot afford alot of anabolics, so Im basically on HRT instead. If I want to eat easier food to take down, shit that tastes good, I have to make it myself, and I dont do that. I eat bland shit instead.
So you can see all the limitations that I work within and even with my severe abuse that I do to myself, I still do pretty well with size and strength relative to my beginnings.
I wouldnt want a beginner to see my journal and think that they are limited to what ive done. I would say strive for much better. Especially if you focus on size or strength as a main focus. Best to pick one and excell at that if you want to be the best in one area.
I was never coming from the perspective of optimal results but the training is what Im passionate about. I despise the rest of the process. Many of you already have more advantages at the start. Never limit yourselves or compare to other people. You will never have someone elses structure. Strength is not directly related to size. Its important to adjust your perspective on what you think is "bad ass" or powerful. Look at builds of fighters. Not massive usually. Search 140 lbs guy bench pressing 410 lbs on youtube. Dude doesnt even look like he lifts at all.
Physical dominance is also overrated. Guns, knives, poison. Easy equalisers. It doesnt matter how strong you are. More important to focus on spiritual and mental strength. Confidence regardless of situation is true strength. Not muscle size. Eating and training and injecting is not bad ass in itself. There are much more intense scenarios in life. The training is the fun part of my day.
Many seem focused on just wanting pussy. Thats a very superficial goal and only degrades you over time. Fucking women randomly. The same is true in reverse. For women dick is easily available. Many jump on that ride, but that is not the case with all. With males , many want to get big or shredded toward to goal of getting pussy. If you are confident and you find a good and real woman, this is not something you have to concern yourself with. If you want to fuck , prostitutes are cheap and way less maintenance. These concerns are also invalid.
My point is, broaden your perspectives. Dont be so narrow and so focused on what you think you need to become. Realise that you may be striving toward an illusion that is fake. Focus on yourself and your own progress is my advice.
KILL THAT SHIT