Squats with bar pad

[IronLion]

You suggested that I'm a pussy for using a pad. Why? Because real men like you don't use them? Nonsense. That's exactly the kind of egomeniacal crap that gets tossed around this board all the time. Oh, and I was giving advice on the Training board long before you showed up big man, so uh, I'll just go ahead and post whereever the hell I want.

ok then have fun




btw ironic how you put egomaniacal before the sentence that follows

 

[gymtime]

the point is that if you knew how to position the bar (hence knew what you were doing) you wouldn't need a pad

Actually, I was referring to posts like this one.

"....finding the right groove for the bar and the proprer forward lean to support it."

This is ridiculous. Guys like you always think that someone who does things a little differently are complete idiots. You and your egos are a dime a dozen in any gym.

I've been saying all along that it's a personal preference that has no more bearing on reaching one's goals than wearing gloves, which I have no doubt you are also far too cool for.

 

[JollyRogers]

Well its an issue of personal preference, which is unique based on goals and attitude, so lets not fight over this.

I agree

blah blah blah

I have never seen someone who knows what they're doing use the pad..........use a manta ray if you are going to do high bar squats

No ...allot of people know what there doing even with a pad, why so biased against it? Everyone’s different....

 

[gymtime]

...no one who knows how to squat uses a pad, it is unstable, useless and prevents the bar from resting where it should.....come on big guy you know that...

I know nothing of the sort. This statement has ZERO physiological basis and is only your opinion. You want to preach it as gospel? Be my guest. But don't get your bloomers in a twist when someone else has a different opinion. Then maybe even the great IronLion could, if not keep an open mind, at least be respectful to those with differing opinions.

 

[gymtime]

I am done, you guys have showed me the light....I am a much better person for it....any other rude arrogant comments can be made to my face gymtime...other than that I am done with your ridiculous bullshit.

I think this pretty much makes my point.

Temper temper IL. Dish it out but can't take it huh? Now who saw that coming?

 

[IronLion]

I am done, you guys have showed me the light....I am a much better person for it....any other rude arrogant comments can be made to my face gymtime...other than that I am done with your ridiculous bullshit.

 

[bignate73]

physiologically:
the bar pad has no bearing...but it does change your lever advantage by placing the bar higher out on the moment arm (torso).

another unsettling difference is the fact that the pad itself is "squishy" and doesnt bite into the back, which can put a lifter into a precarious position.

other that, the pressure is still the same on the shoulders, it just is diffused over the traps a bit more by the pad.

i usually dont let my clients use it, unless they buy a very thin one. the ones some gyms have are HUUUUUGE!

 

[louden_swain]

Those who need pads need to build up extra beef on the upper back and reat delts. Something tells me that those that use pads are not using a collar to collar grip. A collar to collar grip builds a stronger base for placing the bar.

None of the top powerlifters use pads and they use 700 to 1000lbs.

I don't want to hear this nonsense: "well I am not a powerlifter". My point is that heavy weights can be shifted around without the pad. . .those with 200 or 300lb squats. . . build up the muscle (your natural padding).

 

[overhead]

I do not use a pad for one reason. Even a thin pad may let the bar *roll* down my back without the actual bar having to spin. If the bar is in the correct place on my back it is unlikely to slide, but if the pad is there it can act like a wheel on an axle and roll. I would rather have the slight discomfort of the bar, then the serious pain of having my shoulders ripped out of the socket.

 

[Exodus]

Those who need pads need to build up extra beef on the upper back and reat delts. Something tells me that those that use pads are not using a collar to collar grip. A collar to collar grip builds a stronger base for placing the bar.

i disagree louden. i bet that the people who use the pad due use a collar to collar grip. and thats the problem. if you lack suffcient trap/reardelt development for a collar to collar grip will hurt. bring your arms in closer and squeeze your traps to make that shelf. as your traps and reardelts get bigger, you can move your hands out.

and the bar does cause a difference. if you are going for a max squat and you legs travel a half an inch in the wrong direction can throw your whole lift off. its that simple, your body has a plain of movement that will allow you individually squat your potentional. a pad moving the bar a quater inch in a different direction will cause you to now squat to your potention.

so despite the fact that a couple of people here have posted that they "Know how to squat". yet they arent at their max potential. just like dave tate says "how much more do you know now that you squat 400lbs compared to when you squatted 200lbs. how much more will you need to know to squat 600lbs???"

Ironlion is not a macho egomanic. he has been there and he was trying to spread some wisdom. and to be blunt......... i will put up with ironlion no matter what his attitude, becuase i know he squats big. so that fact that he knows how to squat over 500lbs with no equipment, means i value his opinion more than any300-400lb squatter, just becuase he's been there and done that. experience is often the best teacher, and you guys are just pissing in the face of wisdom

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