Squat Problem

[ExtraMile]

For a while now my squat has been very far behind my deadlift to the point of it being just 10lbs or so infront of my bench. I cant figure out why. My current pr's are:
deadlift 319x1
full squat 231x1
bench 198x2

now I have thought about this alot and I started to think the differance between the two is deadlift is more back and less quads, but the squat is more quad and less back. Both work hams, glutes and abs hard. Obviously other muscle groups are involved but these are the main movers.

So if my squat is weaker that tells me maybe its my quads that are weak and my back that is strong? Well the problem is that when I deadlift its the middle portion that is hard, I can always break the weight from the floor which is quad strength but can neve get it past about knee level, which I guess is where the posterior chain comes more into play. Besides my quads are big but my hams look kinda small compared and my back isnt small by any means.

where can the problem be that is giving me such a weak squat and how can I solve it?

 

[musketeer]

My max dead is around 600lbs but I've never maxed more than 450 on the squat.

You're a puller not a pusher this is normal.

 

[shirlene29]

ok, this isnt my thing so take it with a grain of salt EM

its probably normal but remember how we were talkin about uneven muscle groups?

maybe you need to diversify a bit more

 

[moya]

your squat is pretty much olympic style right?... if it were a wide stance PL squat i would expect a bit more weight, but honestly your lifts are pretty much proportional...

 

[Scotsman]

Post a vid of you squatting (heavy if possible). At least for me squats are a much more finicky lift. If any one thing is off then I have troubles with the lift. Also there are tons of little things that can affect squats while deads are a much less "technical" lift honestly.

Cheers,
Scotsman

 

[Tblock1]

I think you should try some front squats. They will strengthen your quads if they are weak and will really shoot up your back squats numbers.

 

[Andalite]

My max dead is around 600lbs but I've never maxed more than 450 on the squat.

You're a puller not a pusher this is normal.

Yeah I agree. I can Deadlift 475 but I barely Squat 355 and yet I can Front Squat 295.

It just depends on your body. Everybody is different. Just make sure you work on your hip mobility and you form on Deadlifts is solid. A lot of people have big numbers for Deadlifts but terribly form and then that ends up with them either injured or such bad habits while lifting that they need to take off all the weight and start from the drawing board.

 

[ExtraMile]

your squat is pretty much olympic style right?... if it were a wide stance PL squat i would expect a bit more weight, but honestly your lifts are pretty much proportional...

no, I squat with a shoulder width stance and toes slightly outward, but I squat all the way down like an olympic squatter yes.

@scotsman, I dont have a video of my 231, I have an old video of 198x5 though, this will give you some idea of how I squat although I did take several seconds between reps.

 

[moya]

with a wider stance, legit PL depth and the bar a little lower on the back, i would expect your lift to go up some... so i still dont think it is out of proportion to your dead or bench...

 

[Scotsman]

OK what I can see from your vid:

You are making into two motions. You push your hips back stop and then bend your knees. Try and start bending your knees before your hips get all the way back.

You are drifting forward badly so all your weight is on the balls of your feet and off your heels.

You are leading up with your hips instead of your chest/chin. Try looking up at a fixed point above you on the wall. You are looking into the mirror and wherever you look is where you go. Look forward go forward, look up go up.

You are loosening your core coming out of the hole which is partly caused by not leading up with your chest.

Try and sit back onto your heels like sitting in a chair.

Cheers,
Scotsman