Size dictating knowledge: Yes and No

[needsize]

Debaser, you keep saying that anyone making great gains on what you would consider a volume routine must have great genetics. That simply isnt true. For example, I have aweful genetics for gaining mass, for the first 5 years of serious training I busted my ass trying every routine out there and was lucky to gain a few lbs a year. When I tried this version of the 5x5, I blew up just like you say people do on the DC training. And I continue to do so every time I cycle it into my training. Not only that, any one that I train makes similar gains. So the gross generalizations that make make simply arent true.
I'm not saying that DC training isnt effective, but it is not the only routine out there that is that effective, there are others that work just as well

 

[V10 MOJO]

size and knowledge are not always concomitant. just cause your built doesnt mean you know what youre doing and just cause you have a pencil protector in your top pocket doesnt mean you dont.

hell, many times the professional in a perspective field is the last one to follow his/her advice. ever see a hairdresser with good hair, LOL

 

[Debaser]

Are you training naturally needsize? Most of the people doing DC training are. It's not a slam if you're not, I just want to put things into perspective.

 

[needsize]

Are you training naturally needsize? Most of the people doing DC training are. It's not a slam if you're not, I just want to put things into perspective.

I'm not natural anymore as I hit my genetic limit a while ago, but I did gain somewhere between 60-70lbs naturally using that routine before I started using gear

 

[Debaser]

That's cool. What I like about your program is that it focuses on strength progression. My only beef is that you could probably gain more strength if you dropped the additional exercises, I don't really think they're necessary...

 

[needsize]

That's cool. What I like about your program is that it focuses on strength progression. My only beef is that you could probably gain more strength if you dropped the additional exercises, I don't really think they're necessary...

The additional exercises focus on hypertrophy, so without them there are huge strength increases, but the size gains arent as much.
For what its worth, I do plan on trying the DC training at some point, I just wanted to make the point that there are other systems that are also very effective

 

[Stillgoing]

The additional exercises focus on hypertrophy, so without them there are huge strength increases, but the size gains arent as much.
For what its worth, I do plan on trying the DC training at some point, I just wanted to make the point that there are other systems that are also very effective

Needsize, I'm curious, what does your training routine look like? Is it posted somewhere, or, can you give me a brief description? I always like to hear about different methods.

 

[powerforward]

stillgoing, look up needsize 5 x5 program in the search engine.

 

[needsize]

stillgoing, check out the sticky in the training forum. Since my routine is pretty much the opposite of the DC, cycling back and forth between the two would probably be a good way to keep your body from adapting

 

[Stillgoing]

stillgoing, look up needsize 5 x5 program in the search engine.

Will do, thanks....