RickRock's down with NPP (...and Test E/Dbol)

[RickRock13]

Swoll Patrol, I am very interested in what you are saying. I am not a bodybuilder, particularly, but I have taken growth hormone since June of 1998 and I consider myself well informed on growth hormone, and less on others.

We have a discussion board for persons taking growth hormone by sub-cutaneous injection which I invite all of you to join if you are interested in this... one of the questions that constantly is asked and which we have never been able to answer very well is "What is the maximum dose of growth hormone that we should take, without having any bad side effects?" I am not necessarily interested in muscles, although that is welcome too... but I am mostly interested in all the good results that come from a low dose of growth hormone without any side effects, and in determining which is the maximum amount of growth hormone that we can take, everyday, forever if possible. I am taking 1.5 i.u.'s per day, with excellent results for my purpose, which is staying young and healthy for as long as possible. If growth hormone cost one penny per day, some doctors say that 2 i.u.'s per day is better than 1.5 i.u., and I would probably experiment with two or three i.u.'s per day, and even more...

So I'm interested in your statement: "You should do no less than 3 ius a day... I strongly recommend 4-8 ius for good results at no less than 5 days a week for a peroid of at least 6 wks"

Can you tell me, please, at a dose of 8 i.u.'s per day have you (or anybody else that you know) gotten any side effects such as pain in your wrists or swelling of fingers or joints, etc.? (this would be, I think, one of the first side effects from an overdose of growth hormone before much more serious side effects.) What is the largest dose that you have taken yourself, and for how long, and can you describe if you had any pains at all because of this?

You also state: "MIx plenty of test with it your receptors stay fully open when one is on gh" Can you tell me where you learned that the receptors stay fully open when one is on GH, and which receptors are you referring to? Thanks.

I am the moderator of a discussion board on growth hormone taken by sub-cutaneous injection, for any purpose or reason. I invite everybody interested in this to subscribe to Rejuvenation (free, of course)
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I also invite you to read my Rejuvenation page, which describes my experience with growth hormone and other rejuvenating therapies (I should be 55 years old, but I probably won't be, for another 15 years, maybe...)
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I live in Mexico, and I have helped many people to buy authentic growth hormone for much less than it usually costs in the U.S.
Please contact me directly if this interests you... I don't want to abuse the courtesy of this discussion board.

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Glad you are here bro!

 

[RickRock13]

That's awesome bro, I Wana do similar to this for my winter bulking cycle. Ur ripped man n after the dbol is finished u will probs drop bit of that water away n look even better. Keep killing it ill b following

"obsessed is what the lazy call the motivated"

Thanks for joining bro. The water is temporary I know. By the end of the cycle I should be looking pretty good If I can shred up enough the final weeks.

 

[SinisterUproar]

Day 9
Weight 181.5 (+9)

Well, here I am at day 9 and up 9 lbs already. I looking bigger and fuller by the day for sure. The only negative I have is that the water retention is messing with my head a little bit. It's making me think I'm gaining more fat than I really am because of its effect on definition. I do actually still look pretty lean though. It's just the deeper cuts are blurred and washed out some. Other than that ive had pretty much zero side effects so far.

The PIP from NPP is not bad, but it is definitely worse than the test E. the oil seems to be thicker as well, and it takes longer to draw. This is no big deal to me at all, but just though I would comment on it.

Yesterday's workout went really pretty good. Pumps are getting pretty ridiculous at times and with a good pump I just look bigger than I ever have. I think that is excellent considering I'm only 9 days in right now!

DC Workout 2B (Biceps, Forearms, Calves, Hamstrings, Quads)

Each exercise done with 3 rest pause sets (20 second rest between sets) except where noted. Extreme stretches done following each exercise

BB Curls 115x9x4x3
Reverse BB Curls (straight set) 75x13
Standing calf raises (straight set with enhanced positive and negative- 5 second positive hold, ten second negative hold) 250x12
Lying single leg curls 110x10x5x3
Hack Squats 360x14 (straight set) 320x20 (straight set-widowmaker)

What's your calorie intake bro? It took me 4 weeks to gain 10 pounds

 

[broski87]

Hey rick was curious why Test e and not prop with NPP? Wont the NPP kick in before the test?
Im doing a similar cycle NPP prop and anavar starting in a week!

 

[liffalot]

How did I miss this?!

I'm in man best of luck to you, although I know that you'll make your own.

No Sarmssearch SARMs in that PCT? Some of the best quality OSTA on the market would look mighty nice in there

 

[MattJS]

Rick,

I don't do any cardio, however with my diet being near 100% clean and very low in carbs 2-3k a day is ripping me up nicely.... 9lbs is a big gain alright, my guess is you're gonna be MASSIVE in about two weeks

 

[RickRock13]

What's your calorie intake bro? It took me 4 weeks to gain 10 pounds

Everything should be in my first post of the thread. Basically 3500 on workout days and 2500 on non workout days...and still doing three days of cardio too

 

[RickRock13]

Hey rick was curious why Test e and not prop with NPP? Wont the NPP kick in before the test?
Im doing a similar cycle NPP prop and anavar starting in a week!

Yep, NPP will be at peak levels far before the test and that's fine with me. I prefer long estered test, and I don't like the idea of pinning EOD. Even with NPP I only pin 3x week

 

[RickRock13]

How did I miss this?!

I'm in man best of luck to you, although I know that you'll make your own.

No Sarmssearch SARMs in that PCT? Some of the best quality OSTA on the market would look mighty nice in there

Yeh bro I totally forgot to mention it. I will have sarmssearch Ostarine in PCT, just like I always do!!

 

[RickRock13]

Rick,

I don't do any cardio, however with my diet being near 100% clean and very low in carbs 2-3k a day is ripping me up nicely.... 9lbs is a big gain alright, my guess is you're gonna be MASSIVE in about two weeks

I sure hope so bro. The key will be keeping the fat gain to a minimum.