Question for the ladies, definition of a MAN?

[Griz1]

LOL I dint know Canadians had opinions arent you all AWOL descendents? i thought the Italians were bad but talk about fence sitting, and silence is all you get out of canada, how much have you lot dedicated to the tsunami disaster?? your a bunch of nonentities in the world forum, be quiet.

H

Response removed.

Truce has been called.

Cheers.

 

[Miss24k]

LOL I dint know Canadians had opinions arent you all AWOL descendents? i thought the Italians were bad but talk about fence sitting, and silence is all you get out of canada, how much have you lot dedicated to the tsunami disaster?? your a bunch of nonentities in the world forum, be quiet.

H

Excuse me H, that was an extremely ignorant post!!!! You do realize while you're insulting Griz you are also insulting many of the ladies of EF, and I happen to be 1.

Actually I must be a double negative to you, because I'm both italian and a canadian.

 

[H-isBack]

Excuse me H, that was an extremely ignorant post!!!! You do realize while you're insulting Griz you are also insulting many of the ladies of EF, and I happen to be 1.

Actually I must be a double negative to you, because I'm both italian and a canadian.

My apologise to you both (and all other canadians), sometimes i do run off at the mouth/keyboard, and i do not have any factual evidence to back what i said, so im doubly sorry, itallians ahve nice eyes, i bet yours are - dark smouldering, OMG drive a man wild, ooooppps sorry there i go again..

H

 

[The Shadow]

Excuse me H, that was an extremely ignorant post!!!! You do realize while you're insulting Griz you are also insulting many of the ladies of EF, and I happen to be 1.

Actually I must be a double negative to you, because I'm both italian and a canadian.

PWNAGE

 

[Sassy69]

So what ever happened w/ the guy & his wife???

 

[courtneybcca]

I think the ladies have forgotten something very important... Honesty! A boy becomes a man when they are no longer worried about what others think of him and tell the truth.
As for the boyfriend situation CALL THE COPS!!!! She will not do it for herself and she might be upset with you in the beginning but in the long run she will love you for it.

 

[H-isBack]

So what ever happened w/ the guy & his wife???

who?

H

 

[jenscats5]

I have no problem with honest discussion, so I will do my best to have a "debate" with you, which is a good thing..... to me, it's fun, so let's have fun.....

First. YOU piss off kid! I have a right to post here.

Actually, you're right...

You DO NOT own this thread! You DO NOT control the thread. If you post a thread, EXPECT alternate opinions. I never crapped on you, but I'm very close after your quoted post.

What I've proposed is actually 'honest discussion'. If you read it as a "egotest" then YOU are the idiot, not me.

True..... let's have some play-by-play....

If you want to "talk to the ladies" in private then do through pm and don't be embarrassed when another guy reads your post. Christ, you have same damn post in another forum anyway! So quit flamin me!


Adressing Jenscat's response:

How is that one of my "shortcomings"? That I don't think I live up to that standard? Geez there's a catch 22, if I say I don't live up to that def-I have shortcomings. If I say i do-i'd be about 5 hat sizes larger! I never tried to fit myself into that mould that was proposed. I don't need to, cause there is no "mould" anyway.

Well, I wasn't trying to say you had this particular shortcoming.....since I don't know you, really......... but it seemed to me you got defensive by your post, so I was seeing that defensiveness as a sort of feeling weak on your part or maybe a shortcoming....if I'm wrong, then I'm wrong...

I can however (and did) try to fit the rest of the folks I know into it (or at least how I see them). Which is what I was doing in my response.

I don't know your husband, never even knew you were married. He didn't, and doesn't enter into what I said.

All I am saying is that I question the broad and all encompassing nature of the definition. I think it is a wish list more than any reality.

Well, while it technically is "all encompassing" I don't see being a responsible person, caring, humane, etc person as being unattainable..... maybe it's a sign of maturity.... I don't see those qualities as being "perfect" and being "perfect" to me is a misnomer, as in, it's not possible and a constantly changing, ever impossible standard to meet..... and having "failings" doesn't make one less perfect, it makes them human, and what makes a person is being able to learn from said mistakes & grow from them.....

My god the folks on this thread are touchy! I can't help but notice I attacked no one in my post, but the two replies either shit on me or tell me I have shortcomings in my personality.

So much for an open minded discussion!

Definition of a Woman men would actually want:

She needs to be intelligent, responsible, sense of humor, sense of self, awareness of othes, respect for others and herself, love of her mother/father, be able to communicate. Physically speaking, must respect her own body, (for me) must have some shape & discipline in her maintenance of her body, habits & hygiene. As far as ups & downs, be able to discuss issues, share in decisions, be open to interesting / creative solutions, agree to disagree when appropriate & not carry grudges. Revel in the good times, appreciate & learn from the bad times and remember them relative to the good times.

Also helps if she has a job, meets her obligations, has her own house (i.e. doesn't live w/ parents or weird ditzy girlfiriend from college) has her own car w/ air conditioning (i.e. doesn't want to drive mine). Also appreciated if she keeps a well-maintained lawn "down below".

Now that reads almost sexist to me. If the thread had started with that, I'd hazard a guess that there would be another "flavour" to this discussion.

Your post almost reads as standard, as most men really really want a woman who is physically attractive & not much else.... while you have a "list" of standards, they are attainable...... You seem to want "more" out of a mate than most men want..... I hope you find it...

 

[Dieselgoku23]

I really need to move, Looking at these ladies opinion I actually feel good!!! I mean I live in Miami,FL and if majority of women here wouldn't think like this. Seriously all these women dont have nothing up in the brain, and either they are into your ride, what kinda clubs you can get them in or where do you live or your status!!! . I need to move =( lol

 

[GiaDona]

diesel-i frequent miami often and believe me, there are many of the same kind of women in nyc. u know-i did have that mentality once too-though i was in high school back then. seems that superficiality is something that not everyone grows out of. you don't need to move, you just might be looking in the wrong places. clubs being one of them. clubs are fun for dancing and chillin with ur friends. but you might better find the type of women you're looking for in a bookstore or in a class or something.

status, ride, clothes are nice but that's not the stuff of longevity in a relationship--at least not with someone real. my bf and i met back in the day--when clubs and rides and who rocked the most polo was what was important, but we've since grown into mature adults with depth. don't worry diesel--she's out there..

as for the crazy madness going on in this thread--ppl have diff opinions, think differently, look at thing differently. there's nothing wrong with that. remember guys--we stated--debate w/o defensiveness. everybody can learn something from the next person.