post workout protein

[silver_shadow]

ok... this may not be entirely the right place for this thread... but i wanted responses from bros on this forum in particular.
so we all know how some guys are wedded to the whole thing of WHEY protein post workout. my question is how many actually think this is a necessity... the theory goes that the muscles will absorb the protein best at this time... and yet we know GH is highest during deep sleep and max muscle building happens at that time. so how much merit is there really to the whole whey protein immediately after a workout? or is it over rated?

 

[Cynical Simian]

Why are you assuming you can only have protein at one time? A lot of growth and recovery takes place when you sleep, but the increased nutrient uptake and favorable partitioning created by weight training makes it important then as well. If your pre-workout nutrition is good, you shouldn't be catabolic at the end of your workout, but additional nutrients are still certainly a good idea then.

 

[silver_shadow]

Why are you assuming you can only have protein at one time? A lot of growth and recovery takes place when you sleep, but the increased nutrient uptake and favorable partitioning created by weight training makes it important then as well. If your pre-workout nutrition is good, you shouldn't be catabolic at the end of your workout, but additional nutrients are still certainly a good idea then.

ok... let me clarify some more. obviously one doesn't dispute the fact that protein has to be in the blood at all times so i'm not suggesting protein at one time only. what i'm asking is the insistence that someone is going to grow a whole lot more on *quickly absorbable* whey post workout as opposed to having regular protein then. do folks believe that GH is more post workout?

 

[nelmsjer]

I don't really think it's about growth hormone. That is a separate topic in itself. It's about nutrient partitioning.

[Gross simplification] You are already aware that the muscles use muscle glycogen, glucose, etc. to fuel workouts. In addition, there is myofibrillar damage/protein degradation, assuming you worked out with appropriate intensity. These 2 factors, combined with increased insulin sensitivity, create a very favorable environment for carbs and protein to get shuttled directly into the muscles for refueling and repair, respectively. [/Gross simplification]

So, my point of view, backed by results from clients and personal experience, is that there is an appreciable difference in recovery with a quality post workout drink.

From your post, though... "grow a whole lot more"? No.

 

[silver_shadow]

You must spread some Karma around before giving it to nelmsjer again.

 

[KillahBee]

I always thought it was a situation, to put it simply (cause I ain't got no other wya to put it), where you want to "feed" your muscles as quickly as possible due to the damage/work that they endured during the training. whey would be better/faster for this than say casein, for example.