OTC fatburners...

[PhoenixS]

How late in the day can you take it and still sleep. I have to cut off caffine around 3-4 beable to sleep at about 10 I hit the gym around 6 at night would love to take something like before that and still be able to sleep.

I take 2 Lipostim with 5 AMP before I workout usually around 5:00-6:00pm and I am able to sleep at night. I don't always get to bed at 10, but I could if I wanted to. It's not so hardcore that you cannot sleep. In the past, other products would give me crazy anxiety and couldn't get to sleep always tossing and turning. I am super pumped in the gym though. I do kill it in the gym so that helps too. I have already come down from the stuff within 2 hours of working out I would say. It comes down good too and I don't crash.

 

[lilbittie]

Another good natural OTC fat burner is Project Iron Angel - with yohimbe and green tea. It is what I used this past summer to prep for my wedding and a photo shoot (avi) I discovered it after having a terrible time losing fat in my butt and thighs. My upper body was at 5% body fat and my lower at 18%!! I used it for a little under 5 weeks with fasted cardio and got my lower body fat down to 13%. I didn't want any chemicals in my body and everything else on the market had tons.

I know Orbit and Omega have some powerful stuff too. I'd prefer these over anything you buy at Walmart.

I would love to get more information on the Iron Angel fat burner. I was able to google it but not able to get any nutritional/ingredient information. I just want something that won't trigger panic attacks or give me the shakes. In the past the only thing I have been able to take is areen tea fat burner.