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and i'm gonna go against the grain here and say it's not that difficult to train someone, even without some bullshit
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i could def do it, just simple weigh training and cardio.

you're an idiot for this reply.

go be a trainer and tell me how it works out for you lol

BM is spot on. it's not an easy job. im not even talkign about the business side, which is 80% of the job.


yeah. i bet you could sell a PT package, keep your client interested and focused, retain them for more sessions...and constantly stagger their workout on top of dealing with their injuries by modding their exercises.

on top of all the bullshitting and yappin you have to do while you're with them because 90% of your clients want to talk

good luck buddy. i love you bino but you need to stfu because you haven't an inkling of what you're talkin about
 
your link isnt working BM

Ooooppsss. I left out the "n".... should work now. :)

And Bino, you are functioning under the basic assumption that many people haven't already nearly destroyed their metabolisms with yo-yo dieting and waaaaaaaay too much cardio. What are you going to do to "simple fix that?"

CW - I totally forgot about having to constantly change stuff up to continue the client's progress. I've not worn the PT hat for nearly 3 years.

SALEs, SALES, SALES!!! I floundered for a coupla months till I got it. I was one of the best trainers that the gym where I was working at had seen in a long time but my sales skills SUCKED. I had to learn quick though as the bill collectors didn't give a fat rat's ass about my "sales learning curve." Funny thing when I had to testify recently at the US SEC they stopped me early on saying, "For someone who had no formal education and such little experience in the fundraising industry you sure know a lot about the business (sales) end of it." (was one of the most genuine compliments I'd had in years) I told them that I learned the basics when I was a PERSONAL TRAINER! LOL

There is SO MUCH to personal training that most people have NO CLUE goes into actually being able to earn a living at it. Most people, like Bino (not a perosnal slight I used to think it too until I started working as one) think, "What's the big deal? I mean, if I can keep myself from being a fat slob then how hard could it be for me to reform fatties?" (In other words) if I can do it for myself, then how hard could it be for me to get paid to tell other people how to do it. I mean it isn't rocket science.... right?

I truly enjoyed many aspects of personal training, the constant mental stimulation (I was always getting clients with different issues so I made it my business to learn as much as I could so that I could at least not harm them, at best help them IN SPITE of their issues), human contact/social aspect, complimentary gym membership and on-premise childcare but the downside (LOT OF WORK, not NEARLY ENOUGH money) had me looking for another career path shortly after earning my certification (which was accepted by most gyms but hardly prestigious) and working for about 7/8 months or so.
 
Best post ive seen so far :biggrin:

How do you like personal training brotha

BM is right on when it comes to the business. Young guys get into it thinking that it's going to be non stop pussy and lifting weights. Then reality hits in the form of a 43 year old with saggy everything who wants to look like a fitness model and you have to convince them that being able to touch their toes is enough of a goal. And that they should pay you hundreds of dollars a week to reach that because it will extend their quality of life.
 
BM is right on when it comes to the business. Young guys get into it thinking that it's going to be non stop pussy and lifting weights. Then reality hits in the form of a 43 year old with saggy everything who wants to look like a fitness model and you have to convince them that being able to touch their toes is enough of a goal. And that they should pay you hundreds of dollars a week to reach that because it will extend their quality of life.

^^^ short, sweet, to the point and 100% on the money.
 
Isn't there some sort of regulatory body for certification? I mean, come on....

Oh, and way to spit in the face of everyone on this site who is/has been a legitimate trainer. LOL @ you wondering why everybody is talking shit... :lmao:
 
you're an idiot for this reply.

go be a trainer and tell me how it works out for you lol

BM is spot on. it's not an easy job. im not even talkign about the business side, which is 80% of the job.


yeah. i bet you could sell a PT package, keep your client interested and focused, retain them for more sessions...and constantly stagger their workout on top of dealing with their injuries by modding their exercises.

on top of all the bullshitting and yappin you have to do while you're with them because 90% of your clients want to talk

good luck buddy. i love you bino but you need to stfu because you haven't an inkling of what you're talkin about

nah you need to stfu and hear me out.
i'm not talking about training a nfl athlete to run faster, or taking on a jared sized fatty and turning him into ronnie coleman...i'm talking about helping a bro get into a weight lifting regiem and make progress...honestly i've done it quite a few times, got peeps rolling with the wieghts and some general principals.
it's not that difficult bro, and i'm not some dumbass n00b...most people who start weight lifting pickup the sport this way, you don't need to go to some rediciulous miami style gym with dj and pay a trainer $3000 to learn how to bench press and do preacher curls.
 
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BM is right on when it comes to the business. Young guys get into it thinking that it's going to be non stop pussy and lifting weights. Then reality hits in the form of a 43 year old with saggy everything who wants to look like a fitness model and you have to convince them that being able to touch their toes is enough of a goal. And that they should pay you hundreds of dollars a week to reach that because it will extend their quality of life.

This concept drives both my avatar as well as the reason behind why I am so reluctant to change it.

You could pile-up every 20-something buff guy in the world who thinks training is about getting ass and lifting weights and it still wouldn't add-up to the number of people Richard has helped.

Yes guys an effeminate, soft-all-over, flaming gay guy owns every last one of you.

:)
 
nah you need to stfu and hear me out.
i'm not talking about training a nfl athlete to run faster, or taking on a jared sized fatty and turning him into ronnie coleman...i'm talking about helping a bro get into a weight lifting regiem and make progress...honestly i've done it quite a few times, got peeps rolling with the wieghts and some general principals.
it's not that difficult bro, and i'm not some dumbass n00b...most people who start weight lifting pickup the sport this way, you don't need to go to some rediciulous miami style gym with dj and pay a trainer $3000 to learn how to bench press and do preacher curls.

You are missing the point completely. By your post YOU ASSUME that every person into health and fitness is into bodybuilding or at the very least, lifting weights. Guess what?

THEY ARE NOT.

Which leads to the relevant question:

How much did these "good bros" PAY you?

I would give countless hours/insane amounts of info FOR FREE too. So I thought to myself, shit, why not get paid?

When I stopped "giving the answers away FOR FREE" people stopped constantly asking for FREE advice.

Now factor into that the equation the THE VAST MAJORITY of people who can afford and who are willing to pay for a trainer don't give a fat rat's ass about bench presses or preacher curls, not to mention that many of the movements are contra-indicated/not particularly interesting/attractive to those people.

THEN WHAT DO YOU DO?

Now that we got that part out of the way, do you have A CLUE what THE REAL hourly wage of MOST trainers (starting out or even who have been at it for awhile) is?
 
Isn't there some sort of regulatory body for certification? I mean, come on....

Oh, and way to spit in the face of everyone on this site who is/has been a legitimate trainer. LOL @ you wondering why everybody is talking shit... :lmao:

Actually there isn't. Most chain gyms will ask for a basic minimum type of certification though, obviously the ones where you have to study intensely and NO OPEN BOOK EXAM are preferred and a four year degree in sports sciences or physiology whathave you trumps those. Many will also take advantage of THEIR STAFF though by having the trainers PAY FOR and attend some sort of "in-house" training for extra pay within the chain of gyms - TOTALLY WORTHLESS in the real world though. So you are essentially paying them so they can pay you a few dollars more per hour whenever you sell and train your clients.

But even with all the degree and certifications in the world an older trainer trumps the younger ones for the reason that until *a body* has aged a bit they won't realize how fragile the human condition is. Reading about injury/limitation and LIVING THEM are two completely different realitis.

I will never forget one training session us trainers were having with the head cheese (very well-schooled guy) at WOW (mid-sized chain of gyms on east coast). He was showing us different/newer training techniques. For the most part the presentation was VERY helpfull and informative. But he goes and shows us this one movement (everyone in the room was under 30 and though some were in good shape none had really pushed their bodies to the limit the way I did) and I say, "I would NEVER ask any of my clients to perform that movement. Geeze my knees are screaming just WATCHING you. LOL" He said, "Well it isn't hurting me so why wouldn't I ask one of my clients to do it?"

My reply?

"Simple. If I KNOW it will hurt me and I also know several other movements that are at least as, if not more effective than the one you just showed me then wouldn't it makes sense for me to err on the side of caution and show my clients all of the other movements instead?"

He paused for a moment and verbalized that I was 100% correct. Which was not an easy thing to do for him as he had a far more impressive educational background and far more impressive work resume then me, not to mention that he was a younger MAN who was also my (and everybody else in the entire PT staff in a chain of about 10 gyms) superior. He was extremely gracious and I will never forget that. Also taught me that though education and work experience are very important, LIFE EXPERIENCE is also extremely valuable.
 
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