maybe doing shoulder presses arent smart..

[WanTtoBeDeisel]

i know im not alone when i say that during any sort of benching movement my anterior delts get some action. trust me even though form may be good this is an inevitable fact. now that being said, doing military presses or even db presses hit the anterior delt, sure you can do arnolds but you are still hitting the front of your shoulders. i think this is a reason why a lot of people hate to bench presses and have shoulder problems. think about it you are hitting your shoulders multiple times during the week. now i dont know about you guys but when i do back, again inevitably, i hit the rear delts. any sort of rowing movement is going to bring the back of the shoulders into play.

ok now here is a little theory of mine, well maybe its not mine but i thought of it this morning nontheless. im contantly trying to get my chest bigger, now if you do pressing movements on chest day, why would there be a need to do pressing movements on shoulder day? aside from the fact that your anterior delts are getting over worked, the upper chest also comes into play during shoulder pressing. why not eliminate shoulder presses altogether on shoulder day and stick to upright rows and a variety of lateral raises? these exercises work the side delts, which dont get worked in your back and chest workouts. then perhaps your front shoulders would be fresh on chest day allowing for you to lift more weight with better form and with less chance of injury. any thought?...

 

[genarr3]

Upright rows are very bad for your rotator cuffs. Don't do them.

 

[nice6pac]

eating processed foods is very bad for you don't do it

 

[WanTtoBeDeisel]

any serious responses?

 

[Baoh]

eating processed foods is very bad for you don't do it

:-D

 

[rocko]

Interesting concept. I think what you should do is try it out for 6-8 weeks and get back to us - let us know how it went. Right idea, alot of people have horibly overdeveloped front delts, and this may be due to excessive over training with respect to time devoted to training the rear and side delts.
Definatly a concept that is worth some condieration. Who knows, maybee years from now all the articles in Flex will be saying don't do shoulder presses ....

 

[WanTtoBeDeisel]

thanks rocko for the support. i mean i didnt really think that it was an outlandish concept. it makes a lot of sense to me. i mean every shoulder day my front delts are still sore from chest day. no matter how i space them. i also feel im overtraining chest because when doing over head shoulder presses you are involving the clavical part(upper) of the chest. im scared to try this , but what could i lose? shoulder strength? i doubt it, not with heavy bench presses.. id like to hear some more input or critisism

 

[Nelson Montana]

The anterior and posterior delts get a lot of work from chest and back exercises and don't need much more, but they still can use some extra. Shoulder presses are more for the medial head, so it's very differeent from bench presses.

Upright rows get more of the traps.

Every should exercise is abrasive to the rotator cuff.

 

[fiz]

you're right... shoulders often get overtrained. I train my chest, then shoulders about 2-3 days later. Make sure you're getting sleep, and lots of protein and enough calories to support your training. It wont be a problem with all of this.. make sure you give yourself the most days between training chest and shoulders as possible.

 

[Fat Bastard]

That's why I train chest and delts together. I concentrate mainly on the different varieties of the lateral raise to hit delts. I rarely do any direct work for front delts(front raises,etc.) because the seem to grow faster than the other shoulder muscles. I do have to do some bent raises for my rear delts though.