Is my friend on roids ??

[Anthrax Invasion]

Yes.

Note - I refuse to read anything else.

 

[silver_shadow]

Because it would take me at least 6 months to go from 70's to 85's on the flat db bench under the same circumstances, and he did it in a month.

I'm just curious thats all.

then YOU need to review what YOU are doing because thats an awful long time to go from 70 to 85 lbs on the flat db bench.

 

[mm107]

nope hes not. Sad but true, My Gym has tanning included, so guess where all the acne people go. Nothing is wrong with AAS at all, but if u didnt reach ur limit b4 using them, then u just arent informed enough. Ive seen kids 17-19 on orals at the gym, im 19, with a nice build, i get asked about gear all the time, and what sucks I KNOW TOO MUCH to be "not on" lol. So my knowledge has definatlet let some believe i have used/or am using. LOL Maybe its because im the only nut SCREAMING at the gym because im busting my balls.

But i wouldnt accuse your friend of going "on", if anything wait for the sides, (bloating, irration, acne, etc,) before even accusing him. I know for a fact i fuckin hate it when i get accused of being on, really hurts honestly, its basically saying, "what the fuck ur not better then me, you must be on juice, you dont know what hard work is"

just my .02 cents. Besides if its your gym buddy, wouldnt he have said anything about it, even if he doesnt want to tell you he is on, he would talk about something to get something off his chest.

 

[b fold the truth]

Man, you've been out of the commercial gyms too long, lol.....While you're 100% right and I agree with you 100%, the sad truth is that people everywhere are using steroids when there is NO need.....I see 19 year old kids at the gym talking about taking a gram of test a week, then I see them struggle to bench 275 for a single....it's truly pathetic.

I have quite a few friends here who fit that bill accordingly...it just baffles me. I have two training partners right now.
Sergei from Russia, ex competitive bodybuilder and powerlifter.
Nickolas from Cyprus (here) and just turned 15. We were trying to explain to Nickolas that the big guys that he saw on the Strongman DVD's and at the big Bodybuilding Show...didn't get that way from drugs alone...a lot of hard training and food went into what he saw.

Not sure I agree that people should wait till they have reached their natural limit before using AAS. I think that if you wait till you hit THAT limit then you have probably wasted your chance to really be competitive. Most people who are SERIOUS about competing are also not natural...because they will do whatever it takes. It takes the AAS. But...those people are competitors which entails A LOT of hard work. Most people in the gyms on AAS using the baby blue dbells aren't competitors willing to put in any kind of hard work.

I will say this, though, I began at 152 lbs and have weighed 308 completely drug free. I wasn't healthy at that body weight but I did it.

My thought is that when this "friend" hits a wall with his progress...he will stop training again and the man starting this thread (who stays the course in his drug-free training) will continue to grow and gain. This person will eventually be bigger and stronger than his friend. There were A LOT of people in the gym when I was 16 and 152 lbs who were BIG and using AAS. A lot of them laughed (literally) at me when I was killing myself training. Now when they see me...they make room.

 

[fitness4lyfe]

I have quite a few friends here who fit that bill accordingly...it just baffles me. I have two training partners right now.
Sergei from Russia, ex competitive bodybuilder and powerlifter.
Nickolas from Cyprus (here) and just turned 15. We were trying to explain to Nickolas that the big guys that he saw on the Strongman DVD's and at the big Bodybuilding Show...didn't get that way from drugs alone...a lot of hard training and food went into what he saw.

Not sure I agree that people should wait till they have reached their natural limit before using AAS. I think that if you wait till you hit THAT limit then you have probably wasted your chance to really be competitive. Most people who are SERIOUS about competing are also not natural...because they will do whatever it takes. It takes the AAS. But...those people are competitors which entails A LOT of hard work. Most people in the gyms on AAS using the baby blue dbells aren't competitors willing to put in any kind of hard work.

I will say this, though, I began at 152 lbs and have weighed 308 completely drug free. I wasn't healthy at that body weight but I did it.

My thought is that when this "friend" hits a wall with his progress...he will stop training again and the man starting this thread (who stays the course in his drug-free training) will continue to grow and gain. This person will eventually be bigger and stronger than his friend. There were A LOT of people in the gym when I was 16 and 152 lbs who were BIG and using AAS. A lot of them laughed (literally) at me when I was killing myself training. Now when they see me...they make room.

nice post

 

[silver_shadow]

I have quite a few friends here who fit that bill accordingly...it just baffles me. I have two training partners right now.
Sergei from Russia, ex competitive bodybuilder and powerlifter.
Nickolas from Cyprus (here) and just turned 15. We were trying to explain to Nickolas that the big guys that he saw on the Strongman DVD's and at the big Bodybuilding Show...didn't get that way from drugs alone...a lot of hard training and food went into what he saw.

Not sure I agree that people should wait till they have reached their natural limit before using AAS. I think that if you wait till you hit THAT limit then you have probably wasted your chance to really be competitive. Most people who are SERIOUS about competing are also not natural...because they will do whatever it takes. It takes the AAS. But...those people are competitors which entails A LOT of hard work. Most people in the gyms on AAS using the baby blue dbells aren't competitors willing to put in any kind of hard work.

I will say this, though, I began at 152 lbs and have weighed 308 completely drug free. I wasn't healthy at that body weight but I did it.

My thought is that when this "friend" hits a wall with his progress...he will stop training again and the man starting this thread (who stays the course in his drug-free training) will continue to grow and gain. This person will eventually be bigger and stronger than his friend. There were A LOT of people in the gym when I was 16 and 152 lbs who were BIG and using AAS. A lot of them laughed (literally) at me when I was killing myself training. Now when they see me...they make room.

those are more often than not pink DBs

 

[Sassy69]

I think the easy litmus test between someone who shoots & has no idea and someone who actually does have a clue and has accomplished their results w/ work & knowledge is the one who knows what you mean when you ask how they eat to gain muscle.

If they dont' know that protein is the best anabolic, then they missed that whole semester of school & just showed up for the test. (lol a little pun there too..!)

 

[fbodyguy02]

It's his own business....if you are that curious, just ask. If he's a good friend he will tell you.

Ona side note- Creatine alone can help increase strenth so that might be it.

 

[tay1506]

Thats not that great of an increase the first 3 months i started working out again my bench went up 70 lbs. and then started halting. The first month i went up probly about 30 - 40 lbs on bench. If you lift right and eat enough your test will make an amazing jump that you can tell especially at a younger age (18 - 25). I really noticed it, I was kinda angry all the time and I would say shit to anyone and my acne and bloating got pretty bad and all my close friends and even my mom thought i was on the juice.

 

[casualbb]

nothing more to say, thread closed.