I’m confused, I’m overwhelmed…. Help pls! 

[alycat]

Ok, I'm reading oxygen mag ABS (new one)
On page 92 there is a article "Nutrition for a tighter waistline"... so I'm reading this, right and it says…
"You want to provide your body with carbs ONLY when they are needed. Those times are before exercise, that includes weights training, and after the workout. That's it!! You give your body the fuel it need and then you replenish it. Any carbs eaten out side of those critical times will most likely contribute to fat.....On days that you don't train, a moderate amount of carbs can be eaten at breakfast. That should be the only carbs you eat all day.

Then it goes onto say…
“ Don't mix carbs and fat together. When you do eat carbs eat them with lean protein such as egg whites, chix, turkey fish (except for fatty fish like SALMON)” wtf????

Now at lunch I almost always eat 1 mutli grain pita toasted ---1 tbs light oilve oil---1 can of salmon---grilled mushrooms.....


Is article this right????? I'm sooo confused... This is why I'm gonna take this class I hope it clarifies things for me.

 

[The Shadow]

Fact:


You Cannot Burn Bodyfat In The Gym When Insulin Levels Are High


The Comment Was Meant That You Shouldnt Eat Fatty Ford Except For Fish(salmon) In General.

 

[Daisy_Girl]

Nothing will EVER clarify things for you. Every article you read from here until eternity will have conflicting information in it. In the SAME magazine you will read conflicting information.

There are just too many variables to say nutrition and training is cut and dry. It is not black and white - different things work for different people.

Usually, simple is best. So many people over-think diet and training. It really is no complicated. Stick with the basics, and tweak from there.

The article probably means STARCHY carbs. There is no reason to EVER limit veggies. Basically, they are saying, eat to fuel your body. If you have a high-intense workout day, eat more carbs to fuel that workout and that day. If you have an off day (or cardio only day), then you need less carbs to fuel your body.

 

[treilin]

Ok, I'm reading oxygen mag ABS (new one)
On page 92 there is a article "Nutrition for a tighter waistline"... so I'm reading this, right and it says…
"You want to provide your body with carbs ONLY when they are needed. Those times are before exercise, that includes weights training, and after the workout. That's it!! You give your body the fuel it need and then you replenish it. Any carbs eaten out side of those critical times will most likely contribute to fat.....On days that you don't train, a moderate amount of carbs can be eaten at breakfast. That should be the only carbs you eat all day.

Then it goes onto say…
“ Don't mix carbs and fat together. When you do eat carbs eat them with lean protein such as egg whites, chix, turkey fish (except for fatty fish like SALMON)” wtf????


Now at lunch I almost always eat 1 mutli grain pita toasted ---1 tbs light oilve oil---1 can of salmon---grilled mushrooms.....


Is article this right????? I'm sooo confused... This is why I'm gonna take this class I hope it clarifies things for me.

Funny I read that article also, and that stuck out at me too!

 

[alycat]

Fact:


You Cannot Burn Bodyfat In The Gym When Insulin Levels Are High


The Comment Was Meant That You Shouldnt Eat Fatty Ford Except For Fish(salmon) In General.

So you're saying that my lunch is fine????
that's not what they meant...
I really enjoy my pita/salmon lunch... but if it's not doing me anygood I'll stop...

 

[alycat]

Nothing will EVER clarify things for you. Every article you read from here until eternity will have conflicting information in it. In the SAME magazine you will read conflicting information.QUOTE]


Ya I'm starting to get that... keep it simple... best advise so far...lol!

 

[StellarTiggy]

Hi there. From a personal point of view - I like carbs. Actually, I *really* like carbs. They are extremely kind to me, not that I converse with them on a regular basis or anything Does that little magazine of yours give you the same satisfaction that pita does? Do you train on a regular basis providing you with all the feel gooooood endorphins you need? Drop the magazine! Quit wasting your money on valueless, falsely recycled pieces of paper (they stain your fingers anyway) and listen to your body. Just eat the pita and feel real good Oh, and try english muffin pizzas. Multigrain thomas' englishmuffins - no hydogenated crap, 100 cals, 22 carbs n 8 fiber, 7 protein. Tomato paste, sauce, ketchup if desired. Part skim mozzarella and you're good ta go. Today I made it with albacore tuna and imitation crabmeat. I made a salad with lowfat mayo, parsley, cabbage and the fish. Just put the tomato stuff on, fish in the middle, top it with the 'rella and toast till melted. Yum!

 

[StellarTiggy]

And an egg white (I just wanted some extra protein).

 

[The Shadow]

Hi there. From a personal point of view - I like carbs. Actually, I *really* like carbs. They are extremely kind to me, not that I converse with them on a regular basis or anything

Dont we all......I love the way they taste but hate the way they make me feel

 

[StellarTiggy]

LMAO! Shadow, I trained very hard yesterday, but god only knows I can't stop eating today. I'm basically walking around my house doing homework and making myself food. I feel indoubtedly guilty for eating so much.

Meal 1- 1/4 cup steel cut oats/a few slices of grapefruit
1/4 cup skim milk+water+stevia+a few raisins+cinnamon+sugarfree maple syrup(for flavor )
I took a few teaspoons of yogurt and mixed an egg white, farmer cheese (the really low cal/sodium kind made from skim milk) into it.
A sprinkle of all bran
1/4 cup of wheat bran and a tablespoon of flaxmeal
2 super omega 3 caps and a multivitamin with digestive enzymes (haha, you know the reason to that...)

tea, water, nestley's 100% cocoa with 1/4 cup soymilk in between

Meal 2 were my english muffins. I think I threw in some farmer cheese/cottage cheese into those. I also ate a few baby carrots (I really can't remember at this point...) oh yeah, I bought this soy based bologna product to TRY. omfg.. I regret "trying" it. I remember I was so full after this meal...

Meal 3 (now) Outta control.

London Top Broil - about 3 oz or so (It was sooooo hard. I killed the fat in that thing!)
a large egg + egg substitute
Made an omellette with that and a slice of leftover delimeat (lean)
2 or 3 tablespoons of farmer cheese
Handfull of mixed salad
hotsauce, ketchup

and then...

It all went to hell.
Tiny [I promise] slice of this thing my dad bought (made of 100% sugar ) I controlled myself here.
A few teaspoons of yogurt, a bit more farmer cheese, then 2 or 3 teaspoons of no sugar added (splenda sweetened) ice cream. haha. wait, wait, my MOTHER comes home here - hey look. She bought large strawberries. 3 of those...some more cocoa, no milk, stevia for sweetness.

This is the part where I drink 5 glasses of water.

I'd like to thank anyone who has actually reached this part of the post...

 

[alycat]

LMAO! Shadow, I trained very hard yesterday, but god only knows I can't stop eating today. I'm basically walking around my house doing homework and making myself food. I feel indoubtedly guilty for eating so much.

Meal 1- 1/4 cup steel cut oats/a few slices of grapefruit
1/4 cup skim milk+water+stevia+a few raisins+cinnamon+sugarfree maple syrup(for flavor )
I took a few teaspoons of yogurt and mixed an egg white, farmer cheese (the really low cal/sodium kind made from skim milk) into it.
A sprinkle of all bran
1/4 cup of wheat bran and a tablespoon of flaxmeal
2 super omega 3 caps and a multivitamin with digestive enzymes (haha, you know the reason to that...)

tea, water, nestley's 100% cocoa with 1/4 cup soymilk in between

Meal 2 were my english muffins. I think I threw in some farmer cheese/cottage cheese into those. I also ate a few baby carrots (I really can't remember at this point...) oh yeah, I bought this soy based bologna product to TRY. omfg.. I regret "trying" it. I remember I was so full after this meal...

Meal 3 (now) Outta control.

London Top Broil - about 3 oz or so (It was sooooo hard. I killed the fat in that thing!)
a large egg + egg substitute
Made an omellette with that and a slice of leftover delimeat (lean)
2 or 3 tablespoons of farmer cheese
Handfull of mixed salad
hotsauce, ketchup

and then...

It all went to hell.
Tiny [I promise] slice of this thing my dad bought (made of 100% sugar ) I controlled myself here.
A few teaspoons of yogurt, a bit more farmer cheese, then 2 or 3 teaspoons of no sugar added (splenda sweetened) ice cream. haha. wait, wait, my MOTHER comes home here - hey look. She bought large strawberries. 3 of those...some more cocoa, no milk, stevia for sweetness.

This is the part where I drink 5 glasses of water.

I'd like to thank anyone who has actually reached this part of the post...

lol... Alright I'll drop the mag and eat my dame pita. you're smart for being so young
but for real, is my lunch good and balanced?

 

[Griz1]

Take the magazines and stack them very carefully in a stack in the garage, if you have a lot make several small stacks. Ensure that you drink plenty of water during the day before you do this. Then, carefully so as not to make too much of a mess, drop your panties, squat over top of each stack and piss on them.

That's about the best use I've found for those magazines.

 

[alycat]

LMAO!!! I love it...

 

[StellarTiggy]

Well, it depends on what you mean by balanced and what typa salmon you're eating. Some canned salmon brands have 1 g fat/serving and some 5grams. You shouldn't worry about the type of fat, because it's olive oil and salmon. Automatically making it omega 3 + 9 for the most part monosaturated as well. The whole grain pita isn't a bad idea at all, especially because the sandwich is quick and unrefined, and fuels ya. The mushrooms contain almost no carbs, so you might as well just refrain from sweating those. It's definitely not a 40/30/20 meal, or a 40/40/20 in terms of c/p/f. Fat takes up most of the percentage, with carbs being second and protein probably either *almost* equivalent to carbs or getting there. But hey, at least it's balanced health-wise, and if I were to crave it I'd eat it for that very reason. The article was based on generalization and not careful analysis. Carefully observe how your body responds to these things since you may be deficient in healthy fats (craving). Observe it for a while, not a day either due to psychological effects (arg! "I read some moronic article in some dimwitted magazine and now I'll stress myself over it") don't forget - it raises your cortisol

 

[skittles]

Alycat - you should get the protein wraps, can't remember the #'s, but the have around 15P /15C & 8fiber (no fat) I got them before at a health store

 

[alycat]

Alycat - you should get the protein wraps, can't remember the #'s, but the have around 15P /15C & 8fiber (no fat) I got them before at a health store

These wraps that you speak of... are you talking just the wrap that has 15/15/8??? that's great... what are they called. if this snow ever lets up I'll get some. I love wraps. but my pita is great. I cut it in two thin slices and then put it on the George Forman grill then put olive oil on it and top it off with caned salmon. it's great!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[The Shadow]

Re: I?m confused, I?m overwhelmed?. Help pls! ?

Well, it depends on what you mean by balanced and what typa salmon you're eating. Some canned salmon brands have 1 g fat/serving and some 5grams. You shouldn't worry about the type of fat, because it's olive oil and salmon. Automatically making it omega 3 + 9 for the most part monosaturated as well. The whole grain pita isn't a bad idea at all, especially because the sandwich is quick and unrefined, and fuels ya. The mushrooms contain almost no carbs, so you might as well just refrain from sweating those. It's definitely not a 40/30/20 meal, or a 40/40/20 in terms of c/p/f. Fat takes up most of the percentage, with carbs being second and protein probably either *almost* equivalent to carbs or getting there. But hey, at least it's balanced health-wise, and if I were to crave it I'd eat it for that very reason. The article was based on generalization and not careful analysis. Carefully observe how your body responds to these things since you may be deficient in healthy fats (craving). Observe it for a while, not a day either due to psychological effects (arg! "I read some moronic article in some dimwitted magazine and now I'll stress myself over it") don't forget - it raises your cortisol

implying that you should shoot for a 40/30/30 with EVERY meal is a bad idea.

 

[skittles]

I had them a few months ago, & can't remember the exact name, but they were from the health store & like the ones they use at Subway for their wraps. I can call the store & ask for the name (if you can't find them)

 

[Daisy_Girl]

La Tortilla Factory has some great low-carb tortilla's

http://www.latortillafactory.com/

 

[StellarTiggy]

Nope. I wasn't implying that. I was referring to the balances I see discussed here most often. I've seen quite a few different people literally post that they do their best balancing their meals the 40.30.30 way in reference to the Zone diet. I would never take that path myself, though. Mixing too many things at once gives me severe digestive problems - it runs in my family.

 

[The Shadow]

Re: I?m confused, I?m overwhelmed?. Help pls! ?

Nope. I wasn't implying that. I was referring to the balances I see discussed here most often. I've seen quite a few different people literally post that they do their best balancing their meals the 40.30.30 way in reference to the Zone diet. I would never take that path myself, though. Mixing too many things at once gives me severe digestive problems - it runs in my family.

I dont see anyone mixing their meals....in fact, I think the majority are doing a great job of macro combinations

 

[StellarTiggy]

Hmm, well, I guess I spend too much time on the Diet and Bodybuilding board considering I surfed through every page of the three diet sections you have on this site and that section contained the largest amount of threads about macros. The zone diet split was a very popular question, whether in that particular phrasing or otherwise, I can assure you that much. The second and third most questioned were 40.40.20 and keto diets. By mixing I meant food combinations, i.e. milk with meat. Remember that one? Milk with fruit also causes fermentation- it has been scientifically proven. Guess you should think twice about putting those acidic blueberries in your cereal

 

[The Shadow]

Im talking about here on this forum

 

[StellarTiggy]

This forum is held by women. Females have the natural ability to tell what's shit and what isn't food-wise P

 

[StellarTiggy]

that face didnt work out. Question: if a person builds muscle fairly quickly, does that mean that person (say...me) has a slow metabolism or a quick one? My test. level is normal. At least it was the last time I checked. er...there have been other aspects (hair problems). I don't know if this really accounts for anything. What's your opinion, Shadow?

 

[The Shadow]

Re: I?m confused, I?m overwhelmed?. Help pls! ?

that face didnt work out. Question: if a person builds muscle fairly quickly, does that mean that person (say...me) has a slow metabolism or a quick one? My test. level is normal. At least it was the last time I checked. er...there have been other aspects (hair problems). I don't know if this really accounts for anything. What's your opinion, Shadow?

cant say...it all goes back to genetics.


Muscle easily = mesomorph

Fat easily - endo

naturally skinny = ecto


so..I would venture to say that you are a meso/ecto or endo depending upon "natural" bodyfat levels

 

[StellarTiggy]

lol. I can't tell regarding my 'natural' bodyfat levels. I used to be an endo weighing 150. I would eat half a dominoes pizza + cinnastix and garlic bread and dressing and stuff...put on a few pounds in a day or two. I ate a horrid amount of sweets my entire life, overate, ate chemicals, saturated fats (you get the point) and then dropped all the weight in about 7 months total now. I'm maintaining somewhere between 100 and 105. Pretty good muscle tone...isn't showing on the scale tho :/ I dunno how good or bad that is. You can see the outline of my abs at this point. You can also tell I had built shoulder/bicep muscle. All hell breaks loose when I flex tho. My thighs are naturally muscular but same goes for those; perhaps even more muscular than arms. I dunno, I suppose I'm an ecto-mes now 'cause I'm damn skinny with sum cute muscles

 

[The Shadow]

LOL

nice...