thanks guys ill have a reserch and look in to it, its just so head to get your head around all these words i think what i need is to sit down with some one who can tell me exactly what to do i mean i knw how to inject and i knw what to eat im pretty well built and just feel its time to take the next step so really im just looking for somebody to tell me what i should be taking how much and when along with the omnadren so i dont grow tits lol.